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#Post#: 118251--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Certificate TfL Failing to drive in the direction
shown by the arrow on a blue sign
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: May 10, 2026, 11:24 am
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--- Quote from: ReflectoR link ---
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>
> . . .
>
> In it they said something along the lines of they are deciding
to pursue the PCN (which is fine). Except it's still at 160?
>
> And they also mentioned having referred the case to the
Tribunal.
>
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Please post the letter (not the whole EP), only redacting yr
name and address.
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> So the question is do I pay now or just wait on the
adjudicator?
--- End Quote ---
Ring LT in the morning, explain the situation and follow their
advice.
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> The envelope had the evidence pack and a broken in half cd
inside.
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Ring TfL and ask them to replace the broken CF. Make sure they
place the case on hold while sending out replacement.
What is the current status/history on TfL's site?
#Post#: 118265--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Certificate TfL Failing to drive in the direction
shown by the arrow on a blue sign
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 10, 2026, 12:55 pm
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No point in paying now because the same £160 is in play at
London Tribunals, with no extra costs payable, and if you win
you pay nothing. A no-brainer, really.
#Post#: 118452--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Certificate TfL Failing to drive in the direction
shown by the arrow on a blue sign
DIR By: ReflectoR
Date: May 12, 2026, 11:40 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
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> [quote author=ReflectoR link=topic=10073.msg118237#msg118237
date=1778417278]
>
> . . .
>
> In it they said something along the lines of they are deciding
to pursue the PCN (which is fine). Except it's still at 160?
>
> And they also mentioned having referred the case to the
Tribunal.
>
--- End Quote ---
Please post the letter (not the whole EP), only redacting yr
name and address.
--- Quote ---
> So the question is do I pay now or just wait on the
adjudicator?
--- End Quote ---
Ring LT in the morning, explain the situation and follow their
advice.
--- Quote ---
> The envelope had the evidence pack and a broken in half cd
inside.
--- End Quote ---
Ring TfL and ask them to replace the broken CF. Make sure they
place the case on hold while sending out replacement.
What is the current status/history on TfL's site?
[/quote]
Will call LT tomorrow. What should I ask them?
Will call TfL and ask for another CD.
Is it worth posting my original appeal? I said it was cloned
plates on the basis I don't remember driving, neither did my
wife. And I had been dealing with a cloned plate issues recently
too. But looking again and the still photos they sent, of the
back of the car, it does look like mine. Is it worth clarifying
that?
Edit:
They also claim to have sent an email in response to my appeal,
but I checked, including the spam, and I got nothing.
In the past, I always remember TfL sending the responses in the
post.
#Post#: 118582--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Certificate TfL Failing to drive in the direction
shown by the arrow on a blue sign
DIR By: ReflectoR
Date: May 13, 2026, 10:26 am
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Status of PCN on TfL site:
HTML https://u.cubeupload.com/rtx/Screenshot2026051316.jpg
#Post#: 118595--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Certificate TfL Failing to drive in the direction
shown by the arrow on a blue sign
DIR By: tincombe
Date: May 13, 2026, 11:47 am
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IMO, TfL actions are subject to the Act and Practice Direction,
in this case:
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Practice%20Direction%2003-2024%20on%20behalf%20of%20ETA%2028%20November%202024%20%28PWS%29.pdf
OP, you are Ground 2. This means that TfL have options:
1. To refer the matter to the adjudicator at which point the
Proper Officer 'will write' to your wife to get confirmation
that reps were made. With this option the decision lies with LT
whether to register TfL's referral as an appeal(para. 8), or
2. To refer the matter to the adjudicator AND re-serve the NOR,
in which case no action is required of the adjudicator unless
your wife fails to pay or appeal to the adjudicator within the
period allowed (paras. 10 and 11).
TfL should act promptly in either case and I don't see that they
would or may hold progression simply because the owner claims
that a CD was broken. Under 1 above, the issue is
procedural(were proper reps actually made) and if ultimately
registered as an appeal(NB. not your wife's choice) then she
would have plenty of time to be supplied with the CD. 2 above
doesn't seem to apply because you've not suggested that a NOR
has been re-served. But let's see the covering letter which came
with the bundle pl.
In short, IMO her next communication should be from LT and your
wife doesn't need to do anything. However, if she doesn't have a
copy of the reps, then ask for one from TfL, assuming there
isn't a copy in the bundle.
#Post#: 119093--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Certificate TfL Failing to drive in the direction
shown by the arrow on a blue sign
DIR By: ReflectoR
Date: May 18, 2026, 12:56 pm
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--- Quote from: tincombe link ---
>
> IMO, TfL actions are subject to the Act and Practice
Direction, in this case:
>
>
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Practice%20Direction%2003-2024%20on%20behalf%20of%20ETA%2028%20November%202024%20%28PWS%29.pdf
>
> OP, you are Ground 2. This means that TfL have options:
>
>
> 1. To refer the matter to the adjudicator at which point the
Proper Officer 'will write' to your wife to get confirmation
that reps were made. With this option the decision lies with LT
whether to register TfL's referral as an appeal(para. 8), or
>
> 2. To refer the matter to the adjudicator AND re-serve the
NOR, in which case no action is required of the adjudicator
unless your wife fails to pay or appeal to the adjudicator
within the period allowed (paras. 10 and 11).
>
> TfL should act promptly in either case and I don't see that
they would or may hold progression simply because the owner
claims that a CD was broken. Under 1 above, the issue is
procedural(were proper reps actually made) and if ultimately
registered as an appeal(NB. not your wife's choice) then she
would have plenty of time to be supplied with the CD. 2 above
doesn't seem to apply because you've not suggested that a NOR
has been re-served. But let's see the covering letter which came
with the bundle pl.
>
> In short, IMO her next communication should be from LT and
your wife doesn't need to do anything. However, if she doesn't
have a copy of the reps, then ask for one from TfL, assuming
there isn't a copy in the bundle.
>
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Hi,
sorry for the late reply.
I've attached below the cover letter. It came with a big bundle
of evidence that they submitted to the LT.
HTML https://u.cubeupload.com/rtx/03tflcoverletterltpa.jpg
#Post#: 123999--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Certificate TfL Failing to drive in the direction
shown by the arrow on a blue sign
DIR By: ReflectoR
Date: July 7, 2026, 12:11 pm
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Hi everyone.
So it's been a while with this case, and I haven't heard
anything back from the London Tribunal. Would they have emailed
me, or posted a letter?
The latest on PCN history is as follows:
01 May 2026
On Hold : SUS40 - Statutory Declaration
Receipt
N/A
21 April 2026
On Hold: SUS40 - Statutory Declaration
Receipt
N/A
20 March 2026
Notice of Debt Registration Issued
A debt has been registered and an Order for Recovery has been
issued.
20 March 2026
Debt Registration Accepted
The PCN has progressed and TfL has received authority to
register a debt against this vehicle.
#Post#: 124009--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Certificate TfL Failing to drive in the direction
shown by the arrow on a blue sign
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 7, 2026, 2:08 pm
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You need to check with London Tribunals what is going on. TfL's
letter says they have passed the papers to LT, as that is what
must happen where reps have been submitted, but no rejection is
received.
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