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<8 mins between entering and leaving, fined for no payment
By: insatiable Date: February 27, 2026, 4:55 am
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Hi,
I received a parking charge today. The car is mine, and it is me
driving etc. Everything is fair and the time frame of it being
sent is within limits etc.
However, I would like to appeal to the parking company but
wanted to run it by you guys first. My points being:
[list]
[li]The total time from entering to leaving is 00:07:58, so less
than 8 minutes[/li]
[li]I have two kids under 10 that I had to sort out[/li]
[li]I was trying to book the parking on the app, but my phone
was playing up. We started walking to where we were going.[/li]
[li]When I still couldn't get parking booked on the app/website
as we were walking, I went back to my car and moved it.[/li]
[/list]
I feel the short space of time is a little aggressive and I was
hoping they might at least give me some kind of smaller payment
deal instead of the full £60.
Appreciate any opinions or advice, thanks.
PC company = I Park Services Ltd
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Re: <8 mins between entering and leaving, fined for no paymen
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By: InterCity125 Date: February 27, 2026, 5:01 am
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Can you post up the PCN redacting only personal info.
Where is the location?
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Re: <8 mins between entering and leaving, fined for no paymen
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By: insatiable Date: February 27, 2026, 5:34 am
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I have uploaded and linked the PCN here >
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0mbnco2ijhvzrhbricyr0/Epson_27022026120411.pdf?rlkey=m734dbi61wi4t99v67es8n40a&st=eoup87f6&dl=0
It was in Bridlington. Thanks.
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Re: <8 mins between entering and leaving, fined for no paymen
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By: InterCity125 Date: February 27, 2026, 5:58 am
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Anything on the back?
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Re: <8 mins between entering and leaving, fined for no paymen
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By: insatiable Date: February 27, 2026, 6:10 am
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Apologies, I have updated the link above with the full 3 page
document. Thx
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Re: <8 mins between entering and leaving, fined for no paymen
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By: ixxy Date: February 27, 2026, 6:17 am
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I don't think you will be able to argue the 5 minutes
consideration period, that's in the code of practice unless you
can successfully argue the car park is big enough to warrant a
longer consideration period. The ntk is quite vague about the
location, it gives a postcode but that's quite an area and
covers at least 2 separate car parks, this could be a defence
point meaning the the ntk is is not POFA compliant. I'd change
your original post as you've clearly identified the driver. The
driver should always be referred to in the 3rd party.
Trouble is I Park are IPC members and as such neither they or
IAS are likely to grant your appeal. They will probably give up
around the time they have to pay the court fee but that will be
after the debt collectors letters which can be ignored and
eventually an LOC which can't be ignored.
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Re: <8 mins between entering and leaving, fined for no paymen
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By: insatiable Date: February 27, 2026, 6:25 am
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So, basically email them, but expect to pay in full? That is
kind of what I figured, but thought I would ask :)
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Re: <8 mins between entering and leaving, fined for no paymen
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By: InterCity125 Date: February 27, 2026, 6:57 am
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The NtK does not appear to be compliant with Schedule 4
Paragraph 9(2)(f) which requires that the NtK;
warn the keeper... blah blah blah... the creditor will,
[font=Arial Black]if all the applicable conditions under this
Schedule are met[/font], have the right to recover from the
keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid;
The warning that 'the parking operator must meet the conditions
of schedule 4' is missing from the NtK - this is mandatory
wording.
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Re: <8 mins between entering and leaving, fined for no paymen
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By: ixxy Date: February 27, 2026, 9:28 am
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[quote author=insatiable link=topic=10058.msg111341#msg111341
date=1772195122]
So, basically email them, but expect to pay in full? That is
kind of what I figured, but thought I would ask :)
[/quote]
Not necessarily, just don't expect 1st and 2nd stage appeals to
work, especially if relying on nuanced interpretation of the
legislation, it's extremely unlikely the operator or IAS would
agree that the NTK is not POFA compliant. If you play the long
game you can probably avoid paying this. Usually if you submit a
defence before the court date they discontinue the case.
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Re: <8 mins between entering and leaving, fined for no paymen
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By: insatiable Date: March 4, 2026, 7:57 am
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As an update they offered me a lower fee of £20. They stood
their ground at £60 initially. I had a bit of a whinge about
money grabbing etc and they reduced to £20.
I think this is fair and have paid it.
Thanks for the help.
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