URI:
   DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       FreeTrafficLegalAdvice
  HTML https://ftla.createaforum.com
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       *****************************************************
   DIR Return to: Private parking tickets
       *****************************************************
       #Post#: 111454--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Euro Car Parks/DCBL Letter of Claim - 4 mins consideration,
       <10 mins over paid time
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: February 28, 2026, 2:41 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       You defence is already very strong particularly their
       acknowledged timings etc.
       If you live near the car park you could always return and
       purchase a 'test ticket' to prove how the physically printed
       expiry time is exactly 2 hours from the exact purchase time.
       The operator will almost certainly rely on a contract term or
       argument that makes it the driver's responsibility to ensure the
       'total time on site' is covered by the 'time purchased' - this
       would of course make the expiry time on the ticket irrelevant -
       that would obviously make the parking operator look pretty
       stupid considering the ticket is the confirmation of the
       contract which the operator has just formed with the client.
       #Post#: 111563--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Euro Car Parks/DCBL Letter of Claim - 4 mins consideration,
       <10 mins over paid time
   DIR By: butchos12
       Date: February 28, 2026, 2:04 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Thanks intercity. The car park is being demolished so it's
       surrounded by boards. That means I can't buy another ticket, but
       equally I don't think they will be able to provide
       contemporaneous proof of the notices etc.
       #Post#: 111598--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Euro Car Parks/DCBL Letter of Claim - 4 mins consideration,
       <10 mins over paid time
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: March 1, 2026, 2:46 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       None of this is a problem.
       We can put Euro Car Parks to strict proof to provide timings
       from their payment machine.
       We can also ask ECP themselves to state the 'expiry time' which
       would have been shown on the ticket based on the time of payment
       - nothing like getting the claimant to provide evidence which
       destroys their own case!!
       Car park signage is often ambiguous regarding time parked vs
       time on site - under consumer law, ambiguous terms must be
       interpreted in a manner which favours the consumer - known as
       'contra proferentem'.
       Your defence is solid - nothing to worry about.
       #Post#: 111605--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Euro Car Parks/DCBL Letter of Claim - 4 mins consideration,
       <10 mins over paid time
   DIR By: ixxy
       Date: March 1, 2026, 3:32 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       If there was an expiry time on the ticket I would agree you have
       a strong defence. If the ticket didn't have an expiry time or
       you can't prove it did your defence is pretty week.
       The case with Excel parking last year changed the code or
       practice so that insisting on purchasing the parking on entry is
       no longer allowed. As long as sufficient time is bought on site
       during the stay that is acceptable. In practice that means you
       can pay just before you leave (many car parks are now
       specifically pay on exit). All this means the time taken to pay
       is irrelevant, the only start point for parking is the ANPR
       entry time. Thats how the industry works, if you can convince a
       judge otherwise it'll potentially have ramifications for the
       industry.
       So the defence above.
       1. Machine timings, not relevant.
       2. You can ask, but unless there was an expiry time also
       irrelevant.
       3. Possibly but you will need signage images. Again the whole
       paid parking ANPR industry equates time on site with the period
       of parking. This is why there is a grace period in the CoP.
       They pobably will have date stamped images of signage in place
       when it was erected.
       It's likely to be discontined before court as its a numbers
       game, not on the strength of your defence.
       #Post#: 113552--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Euro Car Parks/DCBL Letter of Claim - 4 mins consideration,
       <10 mins over paid time
   DIR By: butchos12
       Date: March 17, 2026, 2:59 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Just a question about how to address the lack of response to my
       clarifying questions. 30 days have passed since my LoR and
       questions, so they are in breach of the PAP. What's the thoughts
       on pursuing this with DCB legal? It would presumably need to
       result in an application to the court eventually if I wanted a
       reply. But it would seem an opportunity to demonstrate that they
       are in breach of the protocol which might be useful for costs
       etc later on. Thoughts?
       #Post#: 113604--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Euro Car Parks/DCBL Letter of Claim - 4 mins consideration,
       <10 mins over paid time
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: March 18, 2026, 6:57 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       If they don't respond, then I'd just raise this when it gets to
       the matter of costs if you win. If you believe the answers to
       your questions will be particularly illuminating you can of
       course chase them for a reply.
       #Post#: 113631--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Euro Car Parks/DCBL Letter of Claim - 4 mins consideration,
       <10 mins over paid time
   DIR By: butchos12
       Date: March 18, 2026, 12:33 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Thanks. I'll follow up. At least that way there will be plenty
       on evidence that they have consciously ignored their obligations
       #Post#: 113634--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Euro Car Parks/DCBL Letter of Claim - 4 mins consideration,
       <10 mins over paid time
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: March 18, 2026, 12:49 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       I'd leave it for them to make contact.
       It's not the defendant's job to chase the claimant.
       Besides, we've seen cases were the claimant doesn't provide
       responses for 6 to 12 months - this looks terrible if the matter
       escalates.
       Leave it to them to build their own funeral pyre!!
       #Post#: 116294--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Euro Car Parks/DCBL Letter of Claim - 4 mins consideration,
       <10 mins over paid time
   DIR By: butchos12
       Date: April 18, 2026, 2:43 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Hi All
       I have now received a claim form, link as follows:
  HTML https://ibb.co/vCY0Ctkn
  HTML https://ibb.co/vCY0Ctkn
       along with aknowledgement of service etc
       forms.
       Having read the rest of the forum, it appears to me that the
       suggestion will be to respond with a standard defence, given the
       lack of full paritculars. I assume that this would be the
       appropriate response here?
       As predicted, they have not responded to my requests for
       information. If the suggestion is to apply for a strike out, I
       assume my application for costs ought to accompany this?
       I expect everyone asks this, but I think I also have a good
       factual defence, given the timings of my visit (paid within 5
       mins of arrival, 9 minutes over the paid for period, plus
       mitigating circumstances), so if there is any benefit at all to
       including this in the defence, I'd be grateful for thoughts!
       [img]
  HTML https://ibb.co/vCY0Ctkn[/img]
       #Post#: 116593--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Euro Car Parks/DCBL Letter of Claim - 4 mins consideration,
       <10 mins over paid time
   DIR By: butchos12
       Date: April 21, 2026, 11:28 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Bumping this in the hope of a reply. My feeling, having read the
       other threads, is to draft a defence asking for strike out
       citing Chan, and in the alternative disputing the facts...
       *****************************************************
       Page 2 of 3
   DIR Previous Page
   DIR Next Page