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       52mph on a 40mph limit road council now want driver details
       By: Pinto Date: February 26, 2026, 11:19 am
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       Hello all,
       Apologies if this type of questionhas been posted. I did look,
       but couldn't find any thing.
       I came off the motorway onto an A road with 40 mph speed limit.
       I was going at 52 mph and this was noted by a policewoman with a
       camera in her hand and in a subtle place over the hill.
       I have now received a letter from the council asking for the
       driver details (who was actually me). They quote Section 172 of
       The RTA and that if I don't supply the details then would be
       summoned to a Magistrates court.
       I seem to recall reading somewhere that when asked for this
       information that I don't have to provide it.
       Any one know if that is true?
       Or what should I do? Is it simply a case of providing the
       details and simply take it on the chin?
       Thank you in advance.
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       Re: 52mph on a 40mph limit road council now want driver details
       By: FuzzyDuck Date: February 26, 2026, 11:33 am
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       Very much doubt a council is sending driver request for a
       speeding offence. Yes a S172 must be compiled with or you will
       indeed be visiting a court.
       Not sure what have been reading but I suggest you stop doing it.
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       Re: 52mph on a 40mph limit road council now want driver details
       By: roythebus Date: February 26, 2026, 1:16 pm
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       Failure to reply to a s172 request gives you the bonus of 6
       points and up to £1000. Your choice.
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       Re: 52mph on a 40mph limit road council now want driver details
       By: BertB Date: February 27, 2026, 3:50 am
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       Can you scan this council request for us and post it here?
       #Post#: 112199--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 52mph on a 40mph limit road council now want driver details
       By: Pinto Date: March 5, 2026, 2:41 pm
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       Thank you everyone for your reply.
       I will abide and send the information. I can send by email as
       that is an option and easier.
       My mistake, it wasn't the council. It was Essex Police.
       If they send a pcn, I will simply pay it.  Or whatever else I
       need to do, eg attend a course.
       Let's see.
       Once again, thank you every one.
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       Re: 52mph on a 40mph limit road council now want driver details
       By: NewJudge Date: March 5, 2026, 3:06 pm
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       You should be offered a course for that speed (provided you have
       not done one in the last three years).
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       Re: 52mph on a 40mph limit road council now want driver details
       By: ManxTom Date: March 7, 2026, 6:01 am
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       [quote author=Pinto link=topic=10051.msg112199#msg112199
       date=1772743266]
       Thank you everyone for your reply.
       I will abide and send the information. I can send by email as
       that is an option and easier.
       My mistake, it wasn't the council. It was Essex Police.
       If they send a pcn, I will simply pay it.  Or whatever else I
       need to do, eg attend a course.
       Let's see.
       Once again, thank you every one.
       [/quote]
       Are you 100% certain that you can nominate yourself by email?
       While some constabularies (eg Norfolk & Suffolk) do allow you to
       nominate yourself by email or online, my understanding is that
       most don't.  The reason being that most constabularies want a
       physically signed bit of paper saying that you admit to being
       the driver at the time of the offence.  An email or online
       admission will not suffice.  Or at least that is what those
       constabularies believe - rightly or wrongly.
       You might be able to nominate somebody else as the driver by
       email or online, but doublecheck that you can nominate yourself.
       (You've already made one obvious mistake thinking the council
       had sent you the NIP.  Don't make another unnecessary mistake
       that might cost you)
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