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Re: Leeds Station no stopping notice
By: RipOffPCN Date: February 24, 2026, 10:16 am
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Also, am I better posting or emailing my reply - or does it not
matter which way I tell them where to go?
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Re: Leeds Station no stopping notice
By: jfollows Date: February 24, 2026, 10:17 am
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You (well, the registered keeper) can simply say
[quote]I am the registered keeper.
You state that your notice is not attempting to use PoFA to
transfer liability from the driver to the registered keeper.
As your notice is not PoFA compliant I will not be accepting any
liability for the outstanding parking charges.
The driver is not known to you and I will not be providing any
driver details.
Your options are;
Cancel the notice
OR
Dismiss the appeal and refer this to the IAS
Many thanks,
xxxxxx xxxxxxxx[/quote]
The IAS is useless and unlikely to uphold an appeal if it’s not
cancelled, but if you stay the course it’s very unlikely to make
it to court. Plus the IAS will cost them something like £23.
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Re: Leeds Station no stopping notice
By: RipOffPCN Date: March 17, 2026, 1:14 pm
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Hi, my appeal has - of course - been refused.
I just wanted to doublecheck - should I ignore their latest
email refusing the appeal (asking again for £60 before it goes
up to £100) or reply again, repeating your earlier advice,
copied below:
I am the registered keeper.
You state that your notice is not attempting to use PoFA to
transfer liability from the driver to the registered keeper.
As your notice is not PoFA compliant I will not be accepting any
liability for the outstanding parking charges.
The driver is not known to you and I will not be providing any
driver details.
Your options are;
Cancel the notice
OR
Dismiss the appeal and refer this to the IAS
Thanks very much!!!
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Re: Leeds Station no stopping notice
By: jfollows Date: March 18, 2026, 3:05 am
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You need to appeal to the IAS, expanding on the one key point
under which the registered keeper can be held liable in place of
the driver, from
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4
[quote](4)The notice must be given by—
(a)handing it to the keeper, or leaving it at a current address
for service for the keeper, within the relevant period; or
(b)sending it by post to a current address for service for the
keeper so that it is delivered to that address within the
relevant period.
(5)The relevant period for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4) is
the period of 14 days beginning with the day after that on which
the specified period of parking ended.[/quote]
Then point out that presumed delivery on 12 February is beyond
this period.
Also point out that the operator says they are not trying to use
PoFA anyway. So the unknown driver remains liable, the known
registered keeper does not.
They probably reject your appeal anyway, because they are not
independent, but it’s part of the process you should follow even
so.
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Re: Leeds Station no stopping notice
By: InterCity125 Date: March 18, 2026, 3:41 am
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Contradictor signage / markings should also feature in the
appeal.
'Double Yellows' do NOT mean 'No Stopping' and , as such, double
yellows in a no stopping zone is clearly contradictory and this
is contra to the operators Code of Practice.
A brief stop to allow passengers to enter and exit is completely
allowable under double yellow lines.
If they wish to enforce a no stopping zone then the correct
markings would be 'double reds'.
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Re: Leeds Station no stopping notice
By: jfollows Date: March 18, 2026, 4:49 am
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The danger with adding points about what the driver may or may
not have done is that the IAS will sieze on these and “rebut”
them but will ignore the non-PoFA issue.
Personally I’d stick to the simple single irrefutable appeal
point, for what it’s worth.
What the driver might be liable for isn’t an issue here, I
suggest.
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Re: Leeds Station no stopping notice
By: RipOffPCN Date: March 18, 2026, 7:28 am
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Thanks to all. Sterling work, as always.
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