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#Post#: 110894--------------------------------------------------
PCM (UK) Ltd. PCN Received for parking in visitor bay in a
residential car park as their designated bay was blocked
DIR By: swisstoni3669
Date: February 24, 2026, 3:25 am
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Good Morning all,
A friend of mine has a numbered residential parking space
allocated in their private apartment block car-park, however
when they came to park after work one evening, there was another
vehicle parked in their space. My friend then proceeded to park
in a visitors parking space until they saw that the other
vehicle had moved (they didn’t know who the vehicle belonged to,
and I believe she asked her neighbours). When they went to move
their car from the visitors parking space, their car had been
ticketed… The evidential photos from the PCN clearly show a car
parked in their registered bay. The private residential car park
does not issue permits for cars, so the ticketing warden would
be unable to know that the car parked in my friends bay was
incorrectly parked as they don't know which car is registered to
which apartment… They have an app based payment system for
visitor parking… Would she have a case for appeal or is it just
suck it up and pay? I'll post the PCN and photos later when I
have them... I've told them not to make any contact with the
company just yet till advice is sought...
HTML https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME1AWFI7
- PCN Front
HTML https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME1AWFI8
- PCN Rear
HTML https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME1AWFQT
- Cropped picture of
vehicle showing another vehicle in owners bay
#Post#: 110900--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCM (UK) Ltd. PCN Received for parking in visitor bay in a
residential car park as their designated bay was blocked
DIR By: Dave65
Date: February 24, 2026, 4:02 am
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out of interest then if someone did park in your space what can
you do about it?
Is this a warden enforcement or just someone from the flats?
#Post#: 110902--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCM (UK) Ltd. PCN Received for parking in visitor bay in a
residential car park as their designated bay was blocked
DIR By: swisstoni3669
Date: February 24, 2026, 4:07 am
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--- Quote from: Dave65 link ---
>
> out of interest then if someone did park in your space what
can you do about it?
>
> Is this a warden enforcement or just someone from the flats?
>
--- End Quote ---
Exactly, speaking to my friend, there's no way of knowing if a
car is parked in a bay where it shouldn't be other than the
Visitor parking bays which are controlled by an app.
It's warden enforcement
#Post#: 114740--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCM (UK) Ltd. PCN Received for parking in visitor bay in a
residential car park as their designated bay was blocked
DIR By: swisstoni3669
Date: March 29, 2026, 5:35 am
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Good Morning...
She appealed on the grounds that her bay was blocked without
identifying the driver... the response she got was:-
'Unfortunately at this stage, we are unable to process your
appeal, you have refused to name the driver at the time of the
contravention, as is your right, but without evidence that you
are the registered keeper of the vehicle, we cannot determine
your liability for this charge. If indeed you are the registered
keeper, we will be happy to process your representation after
DVLA details have been sought and a notice to keeper has been
issued. Alternatively, the driver may make an appeal with a
statement of admission and confirmation that they were the
driver of the vehicle at the time'
How would she reply to this? The car is a company lease car and
they are prone to just paying parking fines and then deducting
from wages if they request DVLA details ...
The lease of the property identifies a designated parking space
and states parking enforcement only applies to visitor bays.
Any idea where she can go from here?
#Post#: 114763--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCM (UK) Ltd. PCN Received for parking in visitor bay in a
residential car park as their designated bay was blocked
DIR By: ixxy
Date: March 29, 2026, 11:08 am
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Oh dear this could get messy. The correct process is the parking
company will issue a notice to keeper if the notice to driver
from the windscreen is ignored. That will go to the lease
company who should then reply to the parking company naming the
hirer and providing the documents mandated by POFA to transfer
liability. What often happens is they name the hirer but don't
provide the correct documents. This is good as the hirer can
then refute liability as the conditions of POFA have not been
met. Most parking companies will give up. The other option is
the lease company pays the PCN and passes the cost direct to the
hirer along with an admin fee. If that's in the lease contract
they can do that. Sometimes the wording in the lease contract
doesn't properly cover private parking invoices, however
convincing the lease company of that can be very difficult.
Anyway until a notice to hirer arrives addressed to your friend
the only option is to name themselves as the driver, but that
won't get the PCN cancelled, it will just confirm to the parking
company who the driver is and they will pursue that person. Or
the lease company passes the cost into your friend, then the
matter is between the hirer and the lease company.
Either way sit tight for now as there is nothing the driver can
do which doesn't make the situation worse.
#Post#: 114849--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCM (UK) Ltd. PCN Received for parking in visitor bay in a
residential car park as their designated bay was blocked
DIR By: swisstoni3669
Date: March 30, 2026, 12:41 pm
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--- Quote from: ixxy link ---
>
> Oh dear this could get messy. The correct process is the
parking company will issue a notice to keeper if the notice to
driver from the windscreen is ignored. That will go to the lease
company who should then reply to the parking company naming the
hirer and providing the documents mandated by POFA to transfer
liability. What often happens is they name the hirer but don't
provide the correct documents. This is good as the hirer can
then refute liability as the conditions of POFA have not been
met. Most parking companies will give up. The other option is
the lease company pays the PCN and passes the cost direct to the
hirer along with an admin fee. If that's in the lease contract
they can do that. Sometimes the wording in the lease contract
doesn't properly cover private parking invoices, however
convincing the lease company of that can be very difficult.
>
> Anyway until a notice to hirer arrives addressed to your
friend the only option is to name themselves as the driver, but
that won't get the PCN cancelled, it will just confirm to the
parking company who the driver is and they will pursue that
person. Or the lease company passes the cost into your friend,
then the matter is between the hirer and the lease company.
>
> Either way sit tight for now as there is nothing the driver
can do which doesn't make the situation worse.
>
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Thank you for the advice! I shall pass it on and update as and
if anything happens...
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