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       #Post#: 748--------------------------------------------------
       Your Opinion?
       By: GAZZA_308 Date: January 12, 2012, 4:39 am
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       I have had a complaint from Beno involving him and Moss at the
       Belgium Grand Prix, Ben claims Moss cut him off coming out of
       turn 1, blocked him going up the hill, cut him off going over
       the hill and back down through to turn 13 ( I think)  going into
       turn 13 he claims he was cut off resulting in him spinning off
       the track. ( Sorry guys I don't know what all the parts on the
       track are named ) I have reviewed Moss's video of the race and
       came to the conclusion that Moss had track position, Ben was at
       no stage in a position to pass, at no point did Ben have any
       part of his car beyond the rear wheels of Moss's car which meant
       he was not in a position to pass, he may of had more speed than
       Moss but did not have track position to make a pass.
       I have told Ben of my findings and he did not like it at all. I
       can only go on the video evidence put forward, so I am asking
       everyone to review the video Moss posted of the Spa race and
       please give your opinion on the events in the first lap.
       Thank You.
       #Post#: 749--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Your Opinion?
       By: livolay Date: January 12, 2012, 5:54 am
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       [quote author=GAZZA_308 link=topic=89.msg748#msg748
       date=1326364751]
       I have reviewed Moss's video of the race and came to the
       conclusion that Moss had track position, Ben was at no stage in
       a position to pass, at no point did Ben have any part of his car
       beyond the rear wheels of Moss's car which meant he was not in a
       position to pass, he may of had more speed than Moss but did not
       have track position to make a pass.
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 750--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Your Opinion?
       By: drewdawg727 Date: January 12, 2012, 2:45 pm
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       Macca might have the most insight to this incident as he was
       right behind ben going into Stavelot, I entered the scene as Ben
       was already mid-spin
       Just sayin that apparently I made Kiwi spin going into Pouhon on
       the first lap...and he didn't get all bent out of shape about
       it...
       Sounds like a similar incident to the one (or two) that we had
       at Hungary Gaz
       #Post#: 751--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Your Opinion?
       By: Moss Date: January 12, 2012, 4:21 pm
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       Before I made turn 1 I was right by his side so it was my
       advantage going into the corner. I can't slow down too much,
       most first corner collisions in this game were caused by slow
       front runners. Sorry Ben but that's my opinion
       Speaking about cutting him and spinning him off, same thing
       hapenned to me yesterday playing online against someone I know
       too, I was in the same situation where ur squeezed in the
       middle, then I got bumped from the back and he spun. Weird thing
       is he sent me a message saying "no fair play". I've been cut off
       before a couple of times I do get mad when it happens but later
       I regret it, because when ur still behind someone u don't have
       the right of way.
       #Post#: 753--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Your Opinion?
       By: coolkiwi01 Date: January 13, 2012, 1:53 am
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       after watching vidio moss does cut the corner but bens arrow was
       still behind him so i dont see how moss could have hit ben at
       all.i had the same thing with drew but put it down to racing i
       should have told drew i was there
       #Post#: 758--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Your Opinion?
       By: macca9899 Date: January 13, 2012, 12:45 pm
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       After watching the video and from what I saw following I would
       have to say moss did nothing wrong. At the end of the day the
       driver behind has to first place his car in a safe position to
       make a pass. You have to allow for the driver in front to turn
       in if he has track possition like moss most definitely did.
       What's more you as a driver behind might be bucket loads faster
       but the driver in front is not going to let you by Without a
       fight now is he, otherwise he mayaswell not call himself a
       racer!
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