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       Patch on Monday! So do we race this week?
       By: supanash Date: November 18, 2011, 2:59 pm
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       Looks like it's official that the patch is going to be released
       this Monday. So do we give everyone a week to get used to the
       new world, or do we just go ahead on Tuesday anyway?
       Maybe we could have a practice race this week at one of the
       circuits we've already done, to get a feel for any differences.
       Not Monaco though!
       #Post#: 484--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Patch on Monday! So do we race this week?
       By: drewdawg727 Date: November 18, 2011, 5:57 pm
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       I don't see a reason why we can't just race normal league. I
       actually have been practicing Montreal with a non 11/11 setup
       because I knew the patch would "spring" on us.  ;)
       #Post#: 486--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Patch on Monday! So do we race this week?
       By: supanash Date: November 18, 2011, 7:57 pm
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       [quote author=drewdawg727 link=topic=64.msg484#msg484
       date=1321660632]
       I don't see a reason why we can't just race normal league. I
       actually have been practicing Montreal with a non 11/11 setup
       because I knew the patch would "spring" on us.  ;)
       [/quote]
       But it's not just 11/11 that's broken. All spring settings are
       bugged, so that as you increase from 6 up to 11 you gain 0.5 sec
       a lap or more with each step. So, unless your non 11/11 setup is
       in fact 6/6 then I reckon you are still going to notice a big
       difference, not just to lap times but grip levels as well.
       I'd prefer to have a week to get used to it, but I'll go with
       whatever everyone else wants to do.
       #Post#: 488--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Patch on Monday! So do we race this week?
       By: drewdawg727 Date: November 18, 2011, 9:10 pm
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       maybe YOU gain .5 sec a lap, lol. I didn't know that the changes
       in those springs were THAT dramatic.
       #Post#: 489--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Patch on Monday! So do we race this week?
       By: supanash Date: November 18, 2011, 10:01 pm
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       This video is one of the best demonstrations of the bug that
       I've seen. Maybe my 0.5 sec was an underestimate!
  HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db7m93rCn5k
       #Post#: 490--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Patch on Monday! So do we race this week?
       By: drewdawg727 Date: November 18, 2011, 11:18 pm
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       Interesting video, but these are just insinuating that you keep
       the springs the same. I think for a good setup without the bug,
       the springs may have to be offset a bit. (11/9 or 8/6 or
       something)
       #Post#: 491--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Patch on Monday! So do we race this week?
       By: supanash Date: November 18, 2011, 11:37 pm
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       I expect you're right. Don't think I ever had equal springs on
       2010. This is why I wouldn't mind a week to explore what's
       changed
       #Post#: 496--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Patch on Monday! So do we race this week?
       By: GAZZA_308 Date: November 19, 2011, 2:10 pm
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       I guess we wait and see if the patch comes on Monday for sure
       and see what difference it makes, I am easy either way about
       racing this week with the unknown, how about we have a vote? At
       the top of this page please vote.
       #Post#: 505--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Patch on Monday! So do we race this week?
       By: GAZZA_308 Date: November 22, 2011, 12:05 am
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       [quote author=GAZZA_308 link=topic=64.msg496#msg496
       date=1321733412]
       I guess we wait and see if the patch comes on Monday for sure
       and see what difference it makes, I am easy either way about
       racing this week with the unknown, how about we have a vote? At
       the top of this page please vote.
       [/quote]Majority Rules.... We Race!! :)
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