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       #Post#: 439--------------------------------------------------
       Monaco Points
       By: supanash Date: November 15, 2011, 6:48 am
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       Just got back home from a concert that I almost forgot to go to
       after the race! Spent quite a bit of time thinking about the
       race instead of enjoying the music.
       Anyway, this is what I think:
       - The race was a mess but it should not be re-run.
       - The 5 drivers that managed to not get disqualified should get
       the points as displayed on the results screen, even though that
       means a slightly dodgy win for Macca! So that's Macca (25), Me
       (18), Beno (15) Drew (12) yz (10)
       - Livo must surely get some points. I think that crashing into
       the safety car should be treated like a disconnection, so he
       gets half points (12.5). I also think that we should have this
       rule for the rest of the season.
       - Gun should get half points based on the disconnect rule we
       agreed at the start of the season (more than half race distance
       completed). The trouble is that it's going to be really hard to
       work out what position he was in because of the time delay. Any
       thoughts on that?
       What does everyone reckon?
       #Post#: 440--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Monaco Points
       By: livolay Date: November 15, 2011, 9:38 am
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       Yep I've had some time to cool down & am happy to agree with
       this solution.
       Move on i say, after all it's just a game.
       Even if I finished & won it still would of been a fairly hollow
       victory due to the lag.
       Well done to everyone that finished & commiserations to gun as I
       know how you feel buddy.
       #Post#: 441--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Monaco Points
       By: drewdawg727 Date: November 15, 2011, 11:50 am
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       Given the circumstances that this race was run under, I think
       that's pretty fair Nashy.
       Sorry to hear you had a video game on your mind instead of a
       sweet concert!  :)
       Just spent an hour trying to get even CLOSE to your Montreal TT,
       Nashy...I almost threw my controller at the damn system!! LOL
       >:(
       #Post#: 443--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Monaco Points
       By: supanash Date: November 15, 2011, 12:46 pm
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       [quote author=drewdawg727 link=topic=62.msg441#msg441
       date=1321379456]
       Just spent an hour trying to get even CLOSE to your Montreal TT,
       Nashy...I almost threw my controller at the damn system!! LOL
       >:(
       [/quote]
       Ha. I've started putting a bit of effort into TT in the hope
       it'll improve my online racing. That's not necessarily working,
       but it does mean I've got decent times at Monaco and Montreal
       now.
       #Post#: 445--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Monaco Points
       By: GAZZA_308 Date: November 15, 2011, 1:34 pm
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       I was running in 3rd behind Drew when the safety car was
       deployed and then went past him in the pits before i hit the
       f...ing safety car after it told me to go past, does that mean i
       get half points? as this was another incident due to bad lag by
       the officials. :(
       #Post#: 446--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Monaco Points
       By: supanash Date: November 15, 2011, 2:11 pm
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       [quote author=GAZZA_308 link=topic=62.msg445#msg445
       date=1321385677]
       I was running in 3rd behind Drew when the safety car was
       deployed and then went past him in the pits before i hit the
       f...ing safety car after it told me to go past, does that mean i
       get half points? as this was another incident due to bad lag by
       the officials. :(
       [/quote]
       The SC was incredibly laggy for sure. I reckon Striker was
       driving it!
       If we're saying that a safety car crash is like a disconnect,
       then you get half points if we're over half race distance,
       otherwise it's just too bad unfortunately. I'm not sure when the
       first SC came out.
       #Post#: 450--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Monaco Points
       By: ugotgun Date: November 15, 2011, 9:52 pm
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       iwas thinkin about last nites race all day at work today...
       to qualy 1st and then sit on the start line for 20secs and
       hearing everyones gear changes over the mic was frustrating..
       and then to lose connection with 4 or 5 laps to go was even
       worse...at that point i was 5th so yeah some points for that
       would b great at least half of what 5th place gets....
       or u could work it out like this.......if 3 or 4 of you guys
       finished the race ( not sure how many finished) they get the
       normal points ..then whoever lost connection or got the SC bug
       they should be next in the order they went out...so livo,then
       me,then gaz i think and so on....but only if they finshed 50% of
       the race and we should only get half points.
       #Post#: 459--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Monaco Points
       By: drewdawg727 Date: November 16, 2011, 12:54 am
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       First safety car came out on lap 17 or 18 i believe, which is
       just short of halfway.
       #Post#: 463--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Monaco Points
       By: livolay Date: November 16, 2011, 1:27 am
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       Yeah I think we already agreed on half points in the position
       you were in when you get disconnected.
       Safety car bug is now obviously included into that.
       I know what your saying Gun but this would be the only race with
       3 finishing so even though I would get the same points (12 for
       4th) it wouldn't work with other races with the whole field
       usually finishing.
       So 12.5 (+1 for fastest lap) for me & 5 (half of 5th position)
       points for Gun.
       Although Gun you were probably further ahead than 5th with the
       timing & lag all screwed up.
       Reason I suggested a re-race was because so many of the field
       were affected.
       Me & Gazza - safety car bug
       Striker & Gun - lag, disconnected
       Macca & Supanash - different positions to time
       I think Beno, Drew & Josh were the only guys not to have
       connectivity issues?
       #Post#: 464--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Monaco Points
       By: drewdawg727 Date: November 16, 2011, 1:38 am
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       I had safety car lag also...when Gaz got disqualified, the
       safety car lagged and appeared about 2 inches away from me
       (which caused my car to come to a complete stop and I couldn't
       accelerate, but Nashy magically could)
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