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       #Post#: 197--------------------------------------------------
       11 11 11 11 11 11
       By: drewdawg727 Date: October 11, 2011, 8:19 am
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       Guys..
       Just read something online about this game having a bug with
       anti-roll bars/wings/springs and setting them all 11? First i'm
       hearing about this...is it true?
       Just drove around Malaysia in time trials with it and it seems
       like a really crazy bug! I drove around arcade style on pretty
       much every turn. Another element of this game that really is
       beginning to turn me off.
       Did anyone use this setup at Melbourne today?
       #Post#: 198--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 11 11 11 11 11 11
       By: castrol57 Date: October 11, 2011, 8:46 am
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       its a well known bug drew, am surprised you hav'nt heard about
       it.....
       can be used on most tracks, but not all....rest assured it will
       be fixed in next patch.
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       Re: 11 11 11 11 11 11
       By: drewdawg727 Date: October 11, 2011, 9:31 am
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       Good to hear...surprised I haven't heard about it either.
       Thought it would be something I would at least hear you guys
       talk about, but not such.
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       Re: 11 11 11 11 11 11
       By: supanash Date: October 11, 2011, 2:39 pm
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       [quote author=drewdawg727 link=topic=40.msg197#msg197
       date=1318339162]
       Guys..
       Just read something online about this game having a bug with
       anti-roll bars/wings/springs and setting them all 11? First i'm
       hearing about this...is it true?
       [/quote]
       As far as I knew the bug is mainly for the springs. It's a
       shame, because it takes away a big part of the game for me. All
       of the realistic handling disappears and the car becomes a super
       grippy arcade racer. Combined with TCS it's almost impossible to
       lose control of the car, no matter how much you throw it around.
       [quote author=drewdawg727 link=topic=40.msg197#msg197
       date=1318339162]
       Just drove around Malaysia in time trials with it and it seems
       like a really crazy bug! I drove around arcade style on pretty
       much every turn. Another element of this game that really is
       beginning to turn me off.
       [/quote]
       I agree. It takes away a huge part of what I enjoy about the
       game. I remember having 20% races in 2010 where lots of people
       would be struggling with car control, spinning more than once in
       a race. How many people spun at all last night? It's turning
       racing into a series of time trial laps.
       It's one of the reasons I'm avoiding online at the moment (apart
       from our Tuesday races). I can't believe that CM won't fix it
       though. In career mode I deliberately don't set the springs
       higher than 6 or 7 because I know that would give me an unfair
       advantage. I know that some leagues run on racedepartment are
       insisting that people don't set their springs higher than a
       certain amount (usually 6, 7, or 8 ).
       [quote author=drewdawg727 link=topic=40.msg197#msg197
       date=1318339162]
       Did anyone use this setup at Melbourne today?
       [/quote]
       Based on the lap times I would say just about everyone apart
       from you! And that includes me I have to admit. Not sure if mine
       were set to 11-11, but they were definitely 8+. Online it seems
       you're faced with two options:
       1. Have a realistic handling model by setting the springs to
       7ish or less and be 3 seconds off the pace
       2. Have an arcade racer by setting high springs
       Neither is very appealing to me, so I hope CM patch it soon. If
       they do, all the people who use 11-11 all the time might get a
       sudden shock when their car suddenly won't stay on the track!
       I suppose the third option, which racedepartment have taken, is
       to get people to agree not to exploit the bug. Any thoughts on
       that? Of course that only works in a private league. In a public
       lobby you can be sure that some people will know about the 11-11
       spring settings and be using it.
       #Post#: 203--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 11 11 11 11 11 11
       By: drewdawg727 Date: October 11, 2011, 2:55 pm
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       I was getting that feeling as well Nash, I felt like I was
       literally driving in the twilight zone. I can't believe that I
       didn't hear a peep about this until I did some investigating
       after the race today. I was using a setup that I had gotten from
       online, I think before the bug was even detected. My suspension
       was set to 2-2-11-6.
       I think the part of it that was really disturbing the most was
       the fact that I was literally pushing the car to go the fastest
       it could go (and towards the end of the race, the reason why I
       was getting all the penalties.
       Just spent about an hour or so online with Striker though, kinda
       trying to understand the basic steps on what different car
       setups due to your car. So I think my race at Malaysia may be a
       little better.
       Next thing I have to work on is getting through a qualifying
       session without blowing up an engine ::) ...I'm 0 for about 20
       now.
       #Post#: 211--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 11 11 11 11 11 11
       By: castrol57 Date: October 12, 2011, 1:56 am
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       yeah, I am guilty of using 11,11 on the springs, not considered
       it as an exploit, only a bug, and I am sure it will be fixed on
       next patch, along with the graphics on the ps3.
       Would be quite happy to set springs no higher than 8,8 if
       everyone agrees, would make for better racing, for sure ( got
       the last bit from real F1 drivers) lol.
       #Post#: 217--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 11 11 11 11 11 11
       By: supanash Date: October 13, 2011, 4:19 pm
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       CM have said they are trialling a fix for this already, which is
       good.
       I had my first few races in public lobbies the other night. It's
       clear that not everyone knows about the bug. In my first race at
       Melbourne I could tell from the quali times that 11-11 was in
       use, so I did the same and put in a crazy time of 1:18.x and won
       the race from pole. Then I did a race without quali, also at
       Melbourne and once again loaded up my 11-11 setup, assuming that
       everyone knew about it. I started at the very back and came
       through to win. Saw the best lap times posted on the results
       screen - mine was in the low 1:20s next best was 1:24! I
       recognised the PSN name of the second placed driver as someone
       I'd had some really close races with in 2010. He messaged me
       after to congratulate me on the win and my 'amazing' pace, and
       asked for my setup. I was too embarrassed to reply  :)
       So, until CM fix it, online is broken for me.
       One good thing I noticed is that the racing is a lot cleaner
       than last year. Or maybe I just got lucky with that.
       #Post#: 219--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 11 11 11 11 11 11
       By: drewdawg727 Date: October 13, 2011, 6:02 pm
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       I'd say you just got lucky, as I've had a hell of a time with
       certain people in quick game mode...maybe I'll chalk it down to
       people trying to learn the game.
       Another thing to keep in mind is it was so easy to get into
       online races in 2010, this year with the "VIP Credentials" , not
       any joe schmo could get into online races without buying the
       extra pass off of PSN. I feel like only people who are really
       serious about racing will do such.
       #Post#: 221--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 11 11 11 11 11 11
       By: supanash Date: October 13, 2011, 7:34 pm
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       I never play the quick modes. Always do custom races 20% or
       longer.
       #Post#: 222--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 11 11 11 11 11 11
       By: drewdawg727 Date: October 13, 2011, 7:49 pm
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       Oh ok, noted. But still lucky in my opinion!  ;)
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