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Re: I'm creeped out by the book, but I think it's actually GOOD.
Spoilers ahead
By: Danko Kaji Date: July 21, 2015, 8:00 pm
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This might as well be nicknamed the Headcanon Exchange page,
because look at all this amazing lore and information. :D
There is no mention of Fayth being races other than human,
because that's all we know from Yevon's time and onwards, and
that in itself can be considered a Dark Age. Who says there
couldn't be non-human Fayth in Spira? The only reason why Al
Bhed (in the last 1000 years, at least) were never among the
(known) Fayth, because during the Machina War era they were
"lower" class. Who knows where they originated from, or how they
came to reach that point. Apparently in FFX, Rikku said that the
Al Bhed used to live in a city out in an island near Bikanel
Desert before Sin destroyed it, so perhaps the Bedohls had their
own home city, isolated from the main continent. I don't know,
in terms of the exclusive status of Summoning, we've only seen
it hoarded and abused during a golden age overcome with human
strife. Who knows where the Summoning craft originated and with
whom. I just don't think the ability to manipulate pyreflies was
easily or naturally accessible to anyone but the Guado. If
Summoning did in fact originate from humans, then its roots
could be traced to a shady minority of humans were mighty in
tune with the planet to the point of insanity.
Curiously enough, FFX-2 International Mission hints at the
possibility of newborn fiends through Shinra's Creature
Creation, among other things (such as the extent of humanity a
fiend does retain from its human life). I want to do an
elaborate sweep of the Fiend Tales to develop a more clear
headcanon for it. Oh, and another thing. The reason why I
classify fiends as 'alive' more so than dead, because of the
fact implications have been thrown that the people of Spira do
eat fiends, like Wakka when pitted against a Behemoth. Not only
are there morality issues with people eating reincarnated
humans, but there's also the disturbing fact fiends are supposed
to be considered undead life forms. That's why I thought it'd
make more sense if fiends were considered animals instead, or
monsters that are not exactly 'living carcasses' but sentient
creatures.
Bevelle is the heart of hypocrisy. It's sad, but true. That's
probably why Yevon left his home city in the first place,
leaving behind everything he knew. The fact he placed more
emotional attachment on a dream of a city instead of its people
makes me wonder if Yevon actually gave up on humanity, if not
the world as a whole, seeing no hope for redemption. Summoners
are supposed to live for the people, serving as the main source
of balance between the physical realm and the afterlife. It's
unorthodox for a Summoner, no matter a peerless one, to turn
their back on their core principles.
Your entire essay of Zanarkand/Bevelle/Machina War history gives
me feels. Hnnnng. I-It's... it's so brilliant... :o But one
thing, according to the FFX Ultimania Guide, Sin did level
Bevelle to the ground shortly after its birth, thus forcing what
remained from the rubble to rebuild it (and Yevon knows how long
it took to restore Bevelle to its former glory). Try to squeeze
that somewhere into your... brilliant, magnificent essay, hnng.
>.>
I'm gonna miss swapping long-winded posts with you,
UltimaGriever. Farewell, but not goodbye. I shall return in one
month's time! ;D
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Re: I'm creeped out by the book, but I think it's actually GOOD.
Spoilers ahead
By: UltimaGriever Date: July 22, 2015, 1:08 pm
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Omg yes! I have so many of these, because I've been playing this
game for so long...
Yevon's age was definitely a Dark Age. Technology and science
couldn't advance past Yevon's teachings, the church was
incredibly corrupt and didn't really want the cycle to stop,
because that meant they would lose their power. There's no way
to know if there really were fayth that belonged to other races
because none are shown, not even those from Zanarkand at Mt.
Gagazet...
Sin was basically programmed to destroy large settlements and
machina cities, so the city where the Al Bhed lived in Bikanel
was most likely leveled because of that. But, in the beginning,
Yu Yevon had control over Sin and destroyed Zanarkand on
purpose, just so he could show off to Bevelle and bend them on
their knees to him. That was the main purpose why Bevelle spread
Yevon's church to Spira, that's what Maechen said.. unless I'm
mistaken? >.>
Yevon was outright narcissist. He placed higher regard on his
city's memory than the city itself and its people, hence why he
didn't fight harder to protect it, just sacrificed his entire
people and created a facsimile of it before leveling it just to
show how mighty he was and that everyone should worship him as
God else he will destroy everything. It's sick.
I've played FFX/X-2 for 10+ years now, about half of my
lifetime. The Machina War was the event that piqued my curiosity
the most, because not only Sin was the aftermath of the war, but
how the whole story surrounding it was taboo and the only thing
people knew was that "people used machina to kill, hence why
Yevon's teachings forbid the use of machina". Ruins of places
destroyed by the battles are scattered throughout Spira. They
just said that a war broke between Bevelle and Zanarkand, no one
can say for what reasons. The novella provided golden
information on that time: how summoning wasn't exclusive to
Zanarkand as their fayth seemingly claimed to be, how summoning
didn't necessarily mean fayth (nobody calls the Aeon Cores
fayth) and most of the reality of the war, i.e. summoner
recruiting and training in Bevelle, brainwashing in Zanarkand,
what people used to believe in prior to Yevon's church and the
origins of the Al Bhed. I can't believe in how much people bash
in it though... >.>
Please return! :'(
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