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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: CrystalOfLies
Date: January 5, 2015, 10:01 am
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We're taking a break because of Christmas holidays and the exams
after that. We'll resume on the 19th.
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: Fyire
Date: January 16, 2015, 7:16 am
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Hi guys, really late to the party, but I'd just like to thank
you all for translating and making this accessible to us.
I've read whatever's up at the moment, and here are my two
cents:
Lulu and Rikku's behaviors don't actually bother me that much.
Lulu has never been a very warm and friendly person to begin
with, and her insistence at Tidus going to help set up the party
could be seen as her trying to assimilate Tidus back into
Besaid. After all, imagine how the Besaid villagers must feel--
this guy who disappeared two years ago at the beginning of the
Eternal Calm, presumed to be dead, suddenly appears alive at
their beach, and he has some sort of relationship with their
beloved High Summoner. I'd imagine that it would be likely that
the villagers are wary of Tidus. I'd also consider how
unfriendly they were towards Tidus at the beginning of FFX.
Sure, not all the people on Besaid Island were unfriendly, but
given that their traditional beliefs (I know, Besaid appeared to
align itself with the Youth League in FFX2, but they were never
all that political? The only visible representation of this is
in Beclem, but even then it largely became more of a Blitzball
training thing than real political alignment like the issue in
Kilika) and how Tidus completely disregarded that during his
brief stay in Besaid, their cautiousness around him seems
likely.
Sorry, went off tangent there a little-- back to Lulu. I believe
her comment regarding her marriage with Wakka was merely a joke
of sorts; she does this a lot in the game as well. Rikku has
also always had some sort of sibling rivalry behavior going on
with Tidus, although we don't see it much. She's also very jumpy
and restless. I don't think she was truly angry when she accused
Tidus of not listening to her; based on her overall
characterization I would say that's just how Rikku acts, which
is seen throughout the course of FFX2.
The entire thing with the elders and Yuna does bother me a
little, given that there didn't seem to be much of this issue
throughout the entire course of FFX, X-2 and the Eternal Calm
cutscenes. The only examples I can think of are perhaps the
marriage proposal brought up by Wakka to Yuna during the Eternal
Calm cutscenes-- in that, it sounds a lot like Wakka deals with
the elders for her. I guess it's not entirely implausible that
Yuna is held up by these nameless elders; sure we don't see it
in the games, but Yuna does at times have this sense of
apprehension at returning to Besaid in FFX2. I don't mean that
in a bad way: just as she said that she 'felt like a runaway
child coming home', it's almost as if she expected to be chided.
Considering that she was pretty much raised by these temple
elders, it would make a lot of sense that she defers a lot to
them. In FFX2, apart from the mission involving the fiends
coming out of Besaid temple (and in that one, everyone in the
temple was evacuated, so...), there was really no other reason
for Yuna to go into the temple. Also, when Yuna was to stay
over in Besaid for a night, she stayed in Lulu's house, and not
the room in the temple as stated in the novel. Perhaps I'm
reading into it too much, but given all the information I
suppose it can be assumed that when Yuna came back to Besaid
over the course of FFX2, she would avoid the temple, and by
extension the elders. Hence, even if we don't see much of the
elders throughout the games, it's not unlikely that they would
occupy her and disallow her from interacting with Tidus.
Again, just my two cents on the controversies surrounding this
entire novella-- a novel can be interpreted in so many ways,
especially given how vague the Japanese language is. I'd like to
believe Nojima didn't just up and decided to butcher the entire
series just to create a bit more drama. I do appreciate the
backstory he is fleshing out for us, although of course I
haven't had a chance to read the rest of the novel yet, so... In
any case, thanks so much for translating the novel once again!
#Post#: 888--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: CrystalOfLies
Date: January 16, 2015, 10:36 am
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Hey, Fyire. Thanks for taking the time and patience to read our
translations. We respect everybody's views on this novella's
contents, even if some of us do get a little bit passionate. :P
However, even with these characters' defining personalties and
where they stand in regards to X-2, it also brings up some
confusion. Yes, Lulu may have been cold to a lot of people,
especially Tidus, in the beginning of FFX, but we are left to
assume that most of her disdain towards him was chalked up to
him looking very similar to her late boyfriend, him seemingly
having gotten a whiff of Sin's toxins leading to distrust, and
the not-too-subtle chemistry between him and Yuna. But now,
Lulu's moved on, marrying another man and having a child; Tidus
has proven himself a sane man by technically being from
Zanarkand after all; and with Yuna still alive and them being
very much in love, I could see her approving of their time
together if it means Yuna will be happy. I could probably see
Lulu being sceptical if Tidus came back in a suspicious or
coincidental-in-a-bad-way manner, but him coming back after the
world has been saved by another terror, you'd think she'd be
more relaxed seeing a friend who she hasn't seen in two years.
Instead, she acts like Tidus is now half-cyborg or something.
Just eerily cold and even displeased with him. The same could be
said for Rikku.
By the way, Square is announcing a new game at the end of the
month. What could it be? FFX-3? Dissidia 3? I know I've
predicted this numerous times and gotten it wrong, but something
tells me that maybe I just might get what I'm looking for. Could
be because they're announcing Dragon Quest Theatrhythm too!
#Post#: 889--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: Fyire
Date: January 16, 2015, 12:40 pm
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It's always great to meet fellow fans of the series!! I haven't
been able to play my HD Remaster copy since it came out due to
school, so I only just recently played it, and discovered the
existence of the novella and the audio drama. What really
bothers me is that Tidus would move to Bevelle of all places.
Since he's a professional blitzball player, it would have made
more sense for him to move to Luca. Bevelle isn't even close to
Luca... they sure came up with a lot of loose ends with these
productions.
Hmm... I'd postulate that because Lulu has always been rather
pessimistic, her coldness towards Tidus could stem from her
worry that he will disappear and disappoint Yuna again. She does
come off as slightly standoffish, especially at the part where
Tidus mentions that she has new priorities.
Perhaps it could also be, as one other user mentioned, that
Tidus is an unreliable narrator to some extent. It's hard to
say, really. It's clear that Tidus is more than a little shaken
by how much he has missed.
I do hope we will hope a FFX-3, but with news reports it seems
like Dissidia 3 is a little plausible. As long as they don't
cook up another story surrounding the entire Fabula Nova
Crystallis series...
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: CrystalOfLies
Date: January 16, 2015, 1:30 pm
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However, who can say Tidus moved to Bevelle specifically for his
blitzball career? My theory is that he had to leave because
Besaid was getting way too pro-Yevoner for his own tastes and
safety. You find out in the audio drama that it's become a
reclusion for the Yevoners and Yuna became their little
spokesperson. And we all know about Tidus' distrust for Yevon,
even in the name. But hey, we don't know much about that aspect
in the novel yet, so it's too early to conclude.
It could be a case of narrator-bias, but then again, this novel
isn't entirely or specifically in first-person. Maybe they had
to improvise for this French translation, but from what I've
heard the narration in the original Japanese is a weird and
random combination of first-person and third-person. It makes it
hard to decipher what we're supposed to be feeling for Tidus.
Or, well... maybe Tidus, tragically enough, isn't as welcomed on
Besaid as we were led to believe at the end of X-2. Most of this
novel is first/third-person view from Tidus, before switching
over to Yuna at the end. In fact, judging by her strange deja
vu-ish behaviour in the audio drama and what Ifarnal does to
her, maybe she's the one whose narration is distorted. Or
everything is symbolic. That works, right? Again, too early to
conclude.
You know what I would love? A Dissidia game with the Dynasty
Warriors engine; with elements of Final Fantasy peppered into
it. This Dynasty Warriors trend seems to be popular nowadays
with Hyrule Warriors, Gundam Warriors and One Piece: Pirate
Warriors. I could really see a Dissidia Warriors working.
Especially since the character roster and map sizes could almost
match that of a regular Dynasty Warriors game. Heck, they could
even imitate the Three Kingdoms with Cosmos' Forces, Chaos'
Forces and... Neutral Forces, I guess.
#Post#: 891--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: ChercheurObscur
Date: January 17, 2015, 2:31 pm
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Hey guys ! I'm back ! :D
CrystalOfLies, why did you use "she" for the radar ? ??? here
-> “She may have had her days,” Shinra declared. “End of the
road for her.
#Post#: 893--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: CrystalOfLies
Date: January 17, 2015, 3:41 pm
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In the English language, if we refer to a piece of machinery by
gender, it's usually always female.
#Post#: 894--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: ChercheurObscur
Date: January 17, 2015, 5:13 pm
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Oh, ok, I didn't know ! :)
#Post#: 895--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: ChercheurObscur
Date: January 19, 2015, 4:22 pm
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Fiuuu... The first pages of the chapter 5 were a pain in the
ass... lot of descriptions >:(
But I will release the chapter tomorrow. Yuna is coming hehe !
:P
#Post#: 896--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: kk
Date: January 19, 2015, 4:38 pm
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Yay! I've been clicking here everyday to see if you came off of
vacation early, hehe. Totally not obsessed or anything >.>
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