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       #Post#: 843--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
       By: mamboitaliano Date: December 16, 2014, 1:47 pm
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       I know that Sin was just armor for Yu Yevon, I just wonder who's
       inside of his beckoned self and if he can hear others. Remember
       when he responded to the Hymn of Fayth? Who's Cartouche btw?
       #Post#: 844--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
       By: ChercheurObscur Date: December 17, 2014, 2:01 pm
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       Cartouche is a French who bought the novel. Read some previous
       posts.
       I will release Chapter 3 on friday. And just after, I will take
       a break until 01/19/2015 beauce of the holidays and my exams.
       EDIT : Chapter 3 is coming ! COL is fixing it !  :D
       #Post#: 846--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
       By: Cartouche Date: December 19, 2014, 1:39 pm
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       Yep, I bought the novel because I am obviously French and of
       course because I love Final Fantasy X :) I added some pictures
       of the book on the previous page. By the way, there are others
       HERE
  HTML http://bouquindugamer.blogspot.fr/2014/12/final-fantasy-x-25-le-prix-de-leternite.html,<br
       />but they do not are from me.
       Furthermore, I can not upload all the content of the book, it
       would take me a lot of time. I think it is better to wait the
       English translation, and then it's a simpler language to
       understand ! I know that ChercheurObscur and CrystalOfLies will
       make the best possible translation !
       #Post#: 848--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
       By: CrystalOfLies Date: December 19, 2014, 1:45 pm
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       A little bit on Valm's and Kushu's history this chapter.
       First of all: the use of the word 'infernal'. There is a
       character with a similarly-spelled name. I actually smirked at
       that.
       Second: We hear of an old folk tale of the Farplane: bad spirits
       get sent to Hell (apparently Hell is a place in Spira) while
       good spirits get turned into... flowers. Is that why we saw all
       of those purple flowers in the Farplane in X-2? That's actually
       kind of clever and creepy.
       Third: I love how Valm has to whistle to call the Bedohls. If
       you know anything about X/X-2 I'm sure you know why the
       whistling part makes me feel giddy.
       #Post#: 849--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
       By: ChercheurObscur Date: December 19, 2014, 2:06 pm
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       [quote author=CrystalOfLies link=topic=45.msg848#msg848
       date=1419018325]
       bad spirits get sent to Hell (apparently Hell is a thing in
       Spira)
       [/quote]
       uuh... What do you mean here ? Hell is hell, Satan, etc... (but
       your sentence may be something special in english I don't know)
       Also, keep in mind the last sentences of this chapter... In the
       future, you may merge them with something else...  :P
       #Post#: 850--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
       By: Pyreflies_of_MJ Date: December 20, 2014, 12:50 am
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       Hold up...Square Enix issued an official French translation, but
       not an English one? Okay then, Square, I see how it is.
       #Post#: 851--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
       By: Pyreflies_of_MJ Date: December 20, 2014, 1:02 am
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       [quote author=ChercheurObscur link=topic=45.msg849#msg849
       date=1419019607]
       [quote author=CrystalOfLies link=topic=45.msg848#msg848
       date=1419018325]
       bad spirits get sent to Hell (apparently Hell is a thing in
       Spira)
       [/quote]
       uuh... What do you mean here ? Hell is hell, Satan, etc... (but
       your sentence may be something special in english I don't know)
       Also, keep in mind the last sentences of this chapter... In the
       future, you may merge them with something else...  :P
       [/quote]
       Well, it's rather strange because the "Hell" that we know of has
       never been mentioned in Spira. The afterlife has always been
       only referred to as the Farplane, with no distinction between
       good and bad, or "Heaven" and "Hell".  Aside from the existence
       of souls, priests, monks and such, there is no direct reference
       to any of our real world folklore and religious beliefs, so it's
       kind of bizarre that there' d suddenly be mention of a "Hell" at
       all.
       I don't even know what to make of that. It's akin to them
       talking about Roman Gods and Godesses. Hell is a concept of many
       religions on Earth, not in Spira. Ain't no Satan in Spira.
       Until, now apparently, lmao.
       #Post#: 852--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
       By: Pyreflies_of_MJ Date: December 20, 2014, 1:19 am
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       Chile...It's great that you're translating but I'm not even sure
       if I can read anymore of this novel stuff. I'm kind of in the
       mindset of washing my hands of it all. Square done pissed me
       off, they really showed some AUDACITY here, and I'm still mad.
       Them editing the Last Mission stuff for example, still can't
       wrap my head around that one, that really was the last straw for
       me. As has been mentioned before with the novel, one of the most
       frustrating things about it is the apparent regression of
       character everyone's gone through. It's just a hot mess and I
       don't think it will ever appear as anything remotely close to
       "good" in my view. And I don't even understand the need for a
       back story, I mean, who cares about the history of some dead
       randoms on an island? And killing Tidus? No, babe, NO. Like KK
       said, they treat their precious Cloud and Lightning like gods,
       but Tidus is just a disposable joke apparently. Alright, then.
       My trust in Square has diminished significantly from this fiasco
       (and really, the disappointment that was FFXIII as well). They
       can keep their little novel and I'm just going to pay it dust
       and pretend it never existed.
       #Post#: 853--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
       By: CrystalOfLies Date: December 20, 2014, 4:00 am
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       Hey, Pyreflies! You're back!
       I'm still pretty mad about the tsundere-like behaviour everyone
       is displaying to Tidus, especially since it just seems to serve
       the purpose of dealing out contrived drama, but if the rest of
       the novella is anything like Che described earlier then I might
       be willing to give it a second chance.
       Also I noticed that Tidus seems to be a lot more angry than
       usual. If it's all the stuff he's been through or if the fayth
       are just really bad at reconstructing pyreflies, who knows?
       And YES about the 'Tidus is the butt of Final Fantasy protags'
       thing. Cloud is pretty much their mascot and I'm pretty sure
       Toriyama has a shrine of Lightning built somewhere in his house.
       Even Vaan gets more respect than poor Tiida. Even these new
       characters in the novel have more dignity and importance than
       him.
       #Post#: 854--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
       By: Pyreflies_of_MJ Date: December 20, 2014, 5:05 am
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       Hai Crystal! ^_^
       Okay, so I read the first couple chapters, and BARELY made it
       through before just skimming the third one because no, I do not
       give a fawk about those other characters.   ::)
       But anyway, my opinion can be summoned up with a NOPE. Nope,
       just no. SMH  :( Ay dios mio, none of that crap made sense, it
       was not enjoyable  - do not want, abort mission. I'm GOOD, they
       can keep that. Won't be reading further, it'll make me toss my
       cookies in revulsion.
       But may I just say that the imagery of a dark mass of lord knows
       what extending beyond Tidus's feet in the ocean - how completely
       terrifying and foreshadowing of what's to come in this dreg of a
       book. That really set the tone well - the only "compliment" I'm
       willing to give.
       Sorry guys, you are great for translating this thing, and
       ChercheurObscur - I've got mad respect for you, so sweet of you
       to dedicate the time and energy to this.
       But I can't be positive about it one bit. In fact, the book
       itself is the antithesis of positive, which is what I  WANTED
       and expected, and that's why it's so devastating. If I wanted to
       partake in depressing angst, I'd turn on Lifetime.
       All romantic charm has been cut out of this story with Freddy
       Kreuger's rusty talons. I really care about the original story
       and characters, the kinship expressed - that love and
       friendship, family, yaaaas. So this book is like watching a
       video of nothing but people kicking puppies and stomping on
       kittens. I'd rather do without.
       Oh, but here's a brief character synopsis:
       Lulu's being a b*itch, Rikku's being a b*tch, Yuna's being a
       stupid, spineless b*tch and Wakka is perhaps being more stupid
       and oblivious than he used to be, though at least he hasn't
       regressed to being racist - brownie points for Wakka, ya'll. And
       Tidus well, he probaby needs some Paxil.
       Overall, I am CHARMED, guys, let me tell you. Can't you tell?
       >_>
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