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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: Pyreflies_of_MJ
Date: August 17, 2015, 5:55 pm
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I haven't been on in a looooong time, nor have I immersed myself
in this stuff. I just can't. While I appreciate the effort put
into translating the book, all of it just makes me too genuinely
mad to read anymore. It's funny because after a while I was able
to laugh about it, but coming back to it just fuels the burning
embers of rage, surely you jest. What perhaps upsets me the
most, beyond the disease infested **** house that has become the
Tidus and Yuna love story, is the fact that they have stopped
really giving a **** about Tidus. Tidus is my favorite and his
character got no respect here at all. It's bullsh*t. Yuna is a
boring martyr without Tidus. And we've seen/heard that kind of
thing a thousand and one times.
The story Square threw together is as contrived as it is
nonsensical and offensive. It culminates into something that is
equally boring as it is maddening. Square Enix has been ****ing
up lately and it's because they are putting all the focus on
constructing a needlessly convoluted plot, with no respect given
to the characters. And the characters are what makes Final
Fantasy, Final Fantasy.
I. Can. Not.
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: CrystalOfLies
Date: August 18, 2015, 2:33 am
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Oh my god, Pyreflies! You're back!
Better be careful with what you say. They've convinced
themselves that the novella is good and interesting. :P
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: ChercheurObscur
Date: August 18, 2015, 6:24 am
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Haha, it's not like I forbid people to hate the novel ! ;D
But I think you miss the most important thing in this novel :
the distress of Tidus about his current state and how it's
difficult to bring back someone after two years of absence.
That's the guiding principle of this novel. And Nojima
illustrates this point magnificently... But if you don't like
that, I won't curse you, don't worry. :P
The story dealing with Kush, Valm and Ifahnal was used by Nojima
to create a parallel with the current story and to give you
hints on some mysterious events in this noveL... like Tidus'
death for example, Ifahnal killed him but nobody seems to notice
that fact (maybe you need the two last hints you've not seen
yet, but I didn't need them to deduce that).
I understand perfectly if you don't like the writing style of
Nojima, but... well... I like it. :P
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: kk
Date: August 18, 2015, 2:00 pm
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Well, I still don't like it, but there are small little things I
gleam out of the text that I find worthwhile. There are some
cool factoids about the Al Bhed and Spira's history and
summoning, for example. But I'm reluctant to take any of that
new stuff, as cool as it may be, as canon because of how much
previously established canon that Nojima has carelessly ignored
in the book/audio drama, so it kind of feels wrong to take ANY
of this as canon, because that contradicts! xD But I'm trying to
not see things as black and white: I'm trying to take the pieces
I like, and just ignore the rest, even though that makes no
sense...
because Nojima wrote something that is, in my opinion,
illlogical and nonsensical, so why should I have to be logical
about his nonsense writing? xD
One thing I absolutely can't find any goodness in though is, as
MJ mentioned, the characterization of almost all the major
characters from X/X-2, which is just dismal. Even besides Yuna
and Tidus, there are things about Lulu and Rikku that really bug
me, too.
But yeah, I certainly haven't "convinced" myself into thinking
this thing is good, that's for certain. I'm just willing to
concede that there are SOME interesting parts of it. :P Plus,
I'm addicted to reading the thing, like a bad habit. To see what
craziness Nojima came up with this time, LOL.
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: UltimaGriever
Date: August 19, 2015, 6:47 am
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Is there a spoiler tag in here? Because I'm beginning to think
that I know what Chercheur is talking about, but I'm unsure of
whether I should say it here or not. D:
But I'm still unsure of the reason why he'd do it. Does it have
something to do with Zanarkand? That Tidus was summoned by
Yevon, the "heretic" mentioned in the novella? That he'd be able
to weaken the Farplane, which was already unstable, by killing
off someone who had already been brought back from it, only to
bring him back again and see it blow up from the inside?
Jealousy for Kush, perhaps? I don't know. :(
I think I'm the only one here who actually liked the novella.
It's not like I expected kittens and rainbows come out of it,
you know.
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: Akuwah
Date: August 19, 2015, 9:08 am
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Since the translation is already up til Ch. 28, it's going to
end soon right? Good. Thanks for the translation
ChercheurObscur! ;)
I was pretty emotional when I first found out about this novel
(brb deleting my older posts >_>) but now that I've actually
read most of the chapters, I feel somewhat indifferent but at
the same time wishing this novel never even existed l o l. There
are some good/lulzy moments in the novel (e.g. "Your birthmark"
8)) but that's it. Don't wanna overthink on this anymore but
ngl, if SE were to make an X-3, I'd see/play it (and while at
it, praying it won't be depressing af)
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: Danko Kaji
Date: August 20, 2015, 9:23 am
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Whee! I'm back in America! It's good to be home. :D
--- Quote from: UltimaGriever link ---
>
> I think I'm the only one here who actually liked the novella.
It's not like I expected kittens and rainbows come out of it,
you know.
>
--- End Quote ---
I actually like the novella, too. Sure, it's fanfiction quality,
and I've read better fanfiction, but for what it's worth as
canon, it's pretty neat. And I think a lot of things can be
justified (not everything) by a little bit of imagination. I
think my biggest pet peeve with the novel is the freakin rules
that Kush and Ifharnal go by. I mean, sending Tidus back to the
real Besaid in search of Bria? Asking Yuna to go here and there?
Or is it the other way around? I'm so confused. Why did they
have to be so roundabout? Otherwise, I like it. Plus, I enjoy
seeing the realistic side of Tidus/Yuna romance. It helps define
the timeline of how long they continued dating post-FFX-2. I
think by 8 months, when the Spiran Council formed indefinitely
after casting aside Yevon (which is wise), Yuna picked up from
the ashes to hide the truth. Four months is enough time for
'that' incident with the Yevoners to pass, whatever that was
(Yevoners becoming overzealous with Beckoning?), for Yevoner
hunters to arise, and for Senders and their assistants to make
themselves official. There must be a new system in this
government, and I'm curious to see that the writer chose to make
Baralai the essential Maester leader of the world, being second
to the High Summoner in importance.
So, yeah. In a nutshell, the audio drama, novel, and Last
Mission really help establish that one year period that leads up
to FFX-3.
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: ChercheurObscur
Date: August 20, 2015, 11:07 am
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It will be fun to talk about the novella after I'm done with the
translation, really... ;)
Two chapters left...
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: Danko Kaji
Date: August 20, 2015, 11:32 am
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Hip hip hurray! We're almost done!
Now it's time for me to get started on that Restoration! 8)
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: TidusxyunaOTP
Date: August 21, 2015, 12:31 am
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Hi I'm new here and I know that you guys are almost finished
translating and proof reading all the chapters but I just wanted
to say thank you for all your hard work. I know that you all
didn't get paid to do this and took the time out of your
schedules as well, so I really appreciate it ChercheurObscur,
CrystalOfLies, Kk and everyone else. :)
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