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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: ChercheurObscur
Date: May 28, 2015, 7:13 am
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I wonder why I'm the only one who thinks nothing's wrong with
them.
I mean, think carefully. Tidus and Yuna have been in love with
each other for only... let's say... 1 week ? 2 years have passed
but you can't really take into account this.
Then while they were fighting Sin, there was a powerful link
between them : Tidus' first goal was to protect and save Yuna
from a cruel destiny, and Yuna was very concerned about it.
Therefore it's not like they have lived together in perfect
harmony until now, it was just something like... a coincidence ?
Now people live peacefully and Tidus and Yuna meet again. But
there's no more link like guardian and summoner, and while Yuna
has grown up and has more or less matured, Tidus has remained a
"scatty" person.
So right now, we have a brand new couple with two different
traits, and they just have difficulty in matching these traits.
They are just discovering each other like a real couple.
That's why I thing nothing's wrong there.
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: CrystalOfLies
Date: May 28, 2015, 8:46 am
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But I think we have to take into consideration that the time
they spent together in the game can't really equate to the time
they spent in the actual story. Braska's pilgrimage was said to
have taken three months. Meanwhile, Yuna's pilgrimage had a lot
more problems with Operation Mi'ihen, Seymour and all, so it
could have taken even longer. Tidus' personality changes a lot
by the end as compared to the beginning; can that really happen
in the course of a week? The events we actually see must be a
condensed version to fit in with the pacing of the actual game.
It's likely that Tidus and Yuna had a lot more moments that we
didn't see.
And the thing with Tidus' personality in this novel is that it
kind of contradicts the theme from the first game, that is Tidus
maturing and becoming a man in his own right. But even then, I
imagine that he would pretty 'out there,' considering that he
miraculously came back to life because of the woman that he
loves. You seem to be implying that this is a flaw. The thing
about Tidus is that he's supposed to be someone you can relate
to and think realistically of as a young adult. He's not
supposed to be the generic voice of reason, who must always be
in the right and act like absolutely everyone else who conforms
to this reasoning. And I think that this is what the novella is
forgetting, considering how it's written.
I think you're giving the novella the benefit of the doubt too
much. Even I'm starting to get lost with what it's trying to
portray, and I consider myself an FFX fangirl. :P We all try to
defend the things we love. I've even done it myself with FFX's
characters way too much, but we must all admit that nothing is
perfect. Everything has flaws, including this novella.
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: mamboitaliano
Date: May 28, 2015, 10:27 am
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I agree with everything you've said, Crystal. It's the point
most of us have been making since the beginning of this; the
characters just seem off. The good news is that it could all be
creatively fixed in FFX-3 especially since a full game would
have a team of writers, instead of just Nojima. I'm wondering if
this isn't part of the problem. The first 2 games had multiple
writers, where as this novel is specifically written by Nojima.
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: CrystalOfLies
Date: May 28, 2015, 10:44 am
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Exactly. Even though the writing team was helmed by Nojima for
both games, he most likely was under supervision by the
directing team and the other writers. Since this novella is his
own independent work, he has as much freedom as he wants with
these characters. And I feel like he either isn't using their
full potential or is even disagreeing with how they're portrayed
in the games.
There's this old rumour floating around in FFX's development as
a whole that Nojima proposed darker, more depressing factors to
the story. One of the most famous being that Tidus was going to
be an Unsent. This was shot down due to The Sixth Sense coming
out at the time of FFX's development. Now that Nojima has a hold
of these characters, it could be possible that this novella is a
sort of 'revenge' towards the FFX team for not always getting
his way in the story. Tidus is technically an Unsent now, after
all.
Or it could be, as I've recently theorised, that this novella
and the audio drama is all just... a big publicity stunt to get
people interested in the HD Remasters. And to just get FFX into
the gaming community's minds again. Unless they do something at
an E3 event or one of their own events, this novella and the
audio drama aren't really going to amount to anything other than
controversy and Square Enix-brand trolling.
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: ChercheurObscur
Date: May 28, 2015, 11:58 am
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Well, it's just that I think that it's not because someone seems
to act seriously to resolve something that he has necessarily
matured. And that's what I wanted to show about Tidus with Sin,
guardians and summoners... and without. And what's funny is that
we can see this change of mind depending on whether he talks
about Sin, Yevon... or something else (the 16th chapter shows
that).
But aside from that, it's not like I disagree with you. You're
right, I'll stop defending them if everything goes wrong, but I
have some hope there. :P
And when the entire novel will be translated, I think you'll
change a bit your mind about all this talk between Tidus and
Yuna (there's a link with Ifahnal) ;)
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: ChercheurObscur
Date: May 29, 2015, 3:24 pm
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I'm done with the long-awaited chapter ! :D
But you'll be able to read it only if COL is not busy.
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: mamboitaliano
Date: May 29, 2015, 7:14 pm
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bahahahahahahahah oh my gosh wtf, wtf, WTF?! Sorry, I just
couldn't take this chapter seriously. Wow... :D
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: CrystalOfLies
Date: May 30, 2015, 3:57 am
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For real! One moment we're pointing out Yuna's blatant
fanservice and then bam, Headless Tidus.
Man, with every chapter I'm just feeling more and more sorry for
him.
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: ChercheurObscur
Date: May 30, 2015, 5:39 am
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Haha ! Well, I feel sorry for him too there. But as you can see
with this chapter, Tidus has not really matured.
Are you sure this was the aim of Square Enix with FFX ?
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
DIR By: CrystalOfLies
Date: May 30, 2015, 5:52 am
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Still, even if Tidus is portrayed as not being 'manly,' he
really doesn't deserve all the stuff that's happened to him. I
find it worrying that he's comparing himself to Auron of all
people. He's just being a giddy teenager versus a previously
heavily-religious teenager.
That Yuna has always thought of him as a child? Maybe. Still,
what a detriment and a complete twist to her character. Their
different outlooks on life was never a problem to their
relationship in FFX, so why now?
I wish Pyreflies_Of_MJ was still around; I'd love to see her
views on all of this, but alas. :(
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