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#Post#: 107--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: catnip
Date: January 5, 2014, 1:29 pm
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I'm very interested in this and would love to contribute as much
as I can, but I have a few questions...
The set up of these speculations is really confusing to me. The
A-Plot/B-Plot and how exactly they come into play aren't
necessarily clear and I thiiiink I might understand the
theories? But again, not very clear. The way it's all written in
the OP, is it supposed to be in order? Sorry for all the
confusion, I just have a hard time understanding how this is all
written up there. But I would very much LOVE to understand :0
thank you all for your hard work in this thread, by the way!
#Post#: 108--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: dez112
Date: January 5, 2014, 2:48 pm
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@Kamina San - Thanks for the translation!
#Post#: 109--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: moonstone
Date: January 5, 2014, 3:41 pm
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@ KaminaSan - Thanks for the translation!
--- Quote from: stathicus link ---
>
> Moonstone, this is just speculation because I don't think the
novel gives a specific date or time frame it takes place in but,
I believe if FFX-2.5 is cannon it takes place sometime after 3
months. The FFX timeline on the FF wiki and other comments I
have read have listed FFX-2.5 taking place after Last Mission.
It is known that the audio drama takes place 1 year after X-2
and Last Mission takes place 3 months after X-2. Considering how
the events in X-2.5 seems to be closely related to the audio
drama it makes the most sense for X-2.5 to take place 3+ months
after X-2.
>
--- End Quote ---
Although I only understand a little bit of Japanese, I've been
reading a few Japanese reviews/summaries and mostly all seem to
say the same things that have already been said here, about
Tidus and Yuna going to an island that looks similar to Besaid
(more like they landed there after their ship got wreck, I'm
assuming from a storm), him trying to kiss her, him dying by a
bomb that looked like a blitzabal and decapitated head, and him
being brought back through the use of pyreflies.
I find it odd though that those who include a timeline or
mention of when this is taking place, they seem to put this
between X-2 and the 100% ending.
Like this person
HTML https://twitter.com/koroki_edm/status/419640379067994112
This other person
HTML http://blog.livedoor.jp/xenoring/archives/35315834.html
also
mentions that the events take place 2-3 days after their reunion
(from X-2). Later on I think they mention their speculation that
the end of this novel (when it is fully completed) will somehow
connect with the 100% ending of X-2....
Some other things this person also mentions is that the story
seems to be told in the point of view/perspective of several
characters, such as Yuna, Tidus, Wakka, and the new character
(the unsent).
#Post#: 110--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: Internal Medicine Doctor
Date: January 5, 2014, 4:11 pm
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--- Quote from: catnip link ---
>
> I'm very interested in this and would love to contribute as
much as I can, but I have a few questions...
>
> The set up of these speculations is really confusing to me.
The A-Plot/B-Plot and how exactly they come into play aren't
necessarily clear and I thiiiink I might understand the
theories? But again, not very clear. The way it's all written in
the OP, is it supposed to be in order? Sorry for all the
confusion, I just have a hard time understanding how this is all
written up there. But I would very much LOVE to understand :0
thank you all for your hard work in this thread, by the way!
>
--- End Quote ---
I'm terribly sorry if the formatting of the Original Post is
hard to follow. I do my best to make it as concise as possible
while still retaining pertinent information, but if you fellas
find it confusing I'd be more than happy to make it easier to
understand.
The theories are only concerning the way in which Yuna brings
Tidus back, since earlier when the information was first
released the nature of his resurrection was very ambiguous.
Those theories are the unsent theory and the fayth theory, which
respectively are Yuna bringing back Tidus with pyreflies and
Yuna turning him into a fayth to summon.
Every day, more and more information points towards the unsent
theory being the more likely explanation, so I think I may take
the fayth theory down soon. However, the true nature of his
revival is still unknown to us.
#Post#: 111--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: catnip
Date: January 5, 2014, 5:57 pm
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@Internal Medicine Doctor (it won't let me quote :0) - I would
love it if you could clear it up, if it's not too much trouble?
:-\ so sorry if it's inconvenient!
I really appreciate those theories, thank you so much for
explaining! It really always was pretty vague how Tidus came
back. Hopefully things will become clearer. I do know someone
who is fluent in Japanese, both the writing, language, and
culture. I can get a hold of him to see if he can take a look at
those scans! If there are any other scans, that would help too
:) I'll get back to you guys in this thread
#Post#: 114--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: KaminaSan
Date: January 5, 2014, 8:11 pm
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Alright guys... I translated the other page for you all! Well,
all but the last sentence....due to the page being `scanned` by
a digital camera from what must be 1999.
Here we go! It starts in the middle of a sentence from Tidus I
think.
--- Quote ---
> Tidus: "If the sunlight gets to be too much, we'll get all
red, and it's over. We also don't have the Sphere ( )
so... it'd probably just end up badly(problematic)."
>
> Yuna: "Yeah, that would be a disaster, let's find some shade."
>
> Tidus: "I`m trying to get to the shade... but someone ::) is
being un-cooperative."
>
> Yuna: Hehe...
>
> Yuna: "It's not bad though..."
> Yuna said as she smiled and caressed her shoulders.
>
> Tidus: "It hurts..."
> Tidus: "It hurts, cause I'm alive..."
>
> Tidus: "But we may as well confirm it with something that
doesn't hurt!"
> Tidus said while bringing his face closer.
> Yuna pulled back without thinking.
>
> Yuna:"Wait..."
>
> Tidus: "Come on... we were spared, let's atleast share the
joy."
>
> Tidus moved his pouting lips closer.
>
> Yuna pushed away his face while laughing.
>
> Yuna: "Someone could be looking! Look, for example, that
orange(), it's just like Besaid!"
>
> You could tell Tidus lost a bit of energy.
>
> Looking around, they checked their surroundings again.
>
> Tidus: "You're right... it's like the Aurochs are gonna come
running from over there."
> Tidus said while pointing toward the entrance to the road.
>
> Tidus/Yuna: "But something is different... something that
should be here... isn't".
--- End Quote ---
Last sentence is mostly illegible. My coworker tried reading it
too, but he cannot make out a few words. We only got something
about a ship on a shore...
So: Yuna denied a kiss from Tidus, but in a playful manner. It
seems like she is kind of avoiding intimacy?
#Post#: 115--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: Internal Medicine Doctor
Date: January 5, 2014, 8:25 pm
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--- Quote from: catnip link ---
>
> @Internal Medicine Doctor (it won't let me quote :0) - I would
love it if you could clear it up, if it's not too much trouble?
:-\ so sorry if it's inconvenient!
>
> I really appreciate those theories, thank you so much for
explaining! It really always was pretty vague how Tidus came
back. Hopefully things will become clearer. I do know someone
who is fluent in Japanese, both the writing, language, and
culture. I can get a hold of him to see if he can take a look at
those scans! If there are any other scans, that would help too
:) I'll get back to you guys in this thread
>
--- End Quote ---
Alright, did the best I could! Hopefully it's a bit more
understandable and user friendly interface-wise. Thanks for your
input.
--- Quote from: KaminaSan link ---
>
> Alright guys... I translated the other page for you all! Well,
all but the last sentence....due to the page being `scanned` by
a digital camera from what must be 1999.
>
> Here we go! It starts in the middle of a sentence from Tidus I
think.
>
> [quote]Tidus: "If the sunlight gets to be too much, we'll get
all red, and it's over. We also don't have the Sphere (
) so... it'd probably just end up badly(problematic)."
>
> Yuna: "Yeah, that would be a disaster, let's find some shade."
>
> Tidus: "I`m trying to get to the shade... but someone ::) is
being un-cooperative."
>
> Yuna: Hehe...
>
> Yuna: "It's not bad though..."
> Yuna said as she smiled and caressed her shoulders.
>
> Tidus: "It hurts..."
> Tidus: "It hurts, cause I'm alive..."
>
> Tidus: "But we may as well confirm it with something that
doesn't hurt!"
> Tidus said while bringing his face closer.
> Yuna pulled back without thinking.
>
> Yuna:"Wait..."
>
> Tidus: "Come on... we were spared, let's atleast share the
joy."
>
> Tidus moved his pouting lips closer.
>
> Yuna pushed away his face while laughing.
>
> Yuna: "Someone could be looking! Look, for example, that
orange(), it's just like Besaid!"
>
> You could tell Tidus lost a bit of energy.
>
> Looking around, they checked their surroundings again.
>
> Tidus: "You're right... it's like the Aurochs are gonna come
running from over there."
> Tidus said while pointing toward the entrance to the road.
>
> Tidus/Yuna: "But something is different... something that
should be here... isn't".
--- End Quote ---
Last sentence is mostly illegible. My coworker tried reading it
too, but he cannot make out a few words. We only got something
about a ship on a shore...
So: Yuna denied a kiss from Tidus, but in a playful manner. It
seems like she is kind of avoiding intimacy?
[/quote]
You have been invaluable in giving us the opportunity to provide
top-notch information to everyone. I want to thank you again!
You've been a great help!
I believe she's avoiding intimacy as well, but for what reason,
I'm not sure.
Perhaps it's specified in an internal thought or exposition at
the beginning of the novella? I wonder.
#Post#: 116--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: KaminaSan
Date: January 5, 2014, 9:19 pm
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No problem!
Please remember two things with my translations, or any
translation:
1.)Japanese is an EXTREMELY vague language. We usually leave out
Pronuncs etc, and that can sometimes cause confusion. Even in
everyday talk, you will hear people ask 'Who?' just to clarify.
2.)I am not a professional translator. Neither are the people
who sub your Anime. I sometimes have good laughs while watching
subbed anime and seeing things like "Do the impossible and kick
reason to the curb" when they never mentioned the word curb at
all. We take liberties to make it sound... well, like English.
If I translate literally/word for word, it will make absolutely
NO sense in english. Like what Tidus said during the Swimsuit
scene, I tried to make it more in tune with the English Voice
actors speaking mannerisms.
If I translated that scene word for word, it would be "I get
sound of heart beating. I planned to get used to seeing it, but
even with a sudden moment I get sound of shocked".
Japanese uses these onomatopeia(spelling is probably wrong) ,
and expects us to connect them with feeling, or imagery rather
than just a word.
So... yeah. I have been in Japan here for almost 2 years now,
and I'm pretty confident in my Japanese, but remember, little
things are lost in translation, or made better.
#Post#: 117--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: stathicus
Date: January 5, 2014, 10:02 pm
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Man, just reading these tiny translated excerpts is really
helpful. For example, in the blitzball scene it doesn't sound
like Tidus just saw what he thought was a blitzball, ran up to
it and kicked it like an idiot, he either hit it by accident or
it fell from somewhere and hit him which caused the bomb to
detonate. Then in this scene where Tidus tried to kiss her, Yuna
doesn't act as cold as I thought, she playfully rejects him
which I think is more like her character than being a bitchy ice
queen. I hope someone posts a full translation or even a
detailed plot summary soon though.
#Post#: 118--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: Internal Medicine Doctor
Date: January 5, 2014, 10:03 pm
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--- Quote from: KaminaSan link ---
>
> No problem!
> Please remember two things with my translations, or any
translation:
> 1.)Japanese is an EXTREMELY vague language. We usually leave
out Pronuncs etc, and that can sometimes cause confusion. Even
in everyday talk, you will hear people ask 'Who?' just to
clarify.
>
> 2.)I am not a professional translator. Neither are the people
who sub your Anime. I sometimes have good laughs while watching
subbed anime and seeing things like "Do the impossible and kick
reason to the curb" when they never mentioned the word curb at
all. We take liberties to make it sound... well, like English.
>
>
> If I translate literally/word for word, it will make
absolutely NO sense in english. Like what Tidus said during the
Swimsuit scene, I tried to make it more in tune with the English
Voice actors speaking mannerisms.
> If I translated that scene word for word, it would be "I get
sound of heart beating. I planned to get used to seeing it, but
even with a sudden moment I get sound of shocked".
>
> Japanese uses these onomatopeia(spelling is probably wrong) ,
and expects us to connect them with feeling, or imagery rather
than just a word.
>
> So... yeah. I have been in Japan here for almost 2 years now,
and I'm pretty confident in my Japanese, but remember, little
things are lost in translation, or made better.
>
--- End Quote ---
Of course. The liberties of the Japanese language are quite
fiddlesome, taken upon who is the one interpreting and
translating it.
I'm just glad we have somebody who understands even the
slightest bit of Japanese writing! Since I am absolutely dumb on
my luck when it comes to understanding the individual
characters, all I can do is explain the context of the language
to others. Having someone who understands both makes me
overjoyed and extremely grateful.
I appreciate you clarifying that, as well. Official translations
often vary, and it's good for people to know that languages are
never cipherable.
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