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#Post#: 594--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: Pyreflies_of_MJ
Date: March 25, 2014, 8:14 pm
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--- Quote from: CrystalOfLies link ---
>
> [quote]He also brags about the size of his **** at numerous
points
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...
WELP, I'M DONE.
ALL ABOARD THE S.S. AWKWARD~
[/quote]
Jesus Christ, seriously!?
I mean, sometimes dick jokes have their place, and Tidus
flirting with Yuna is a given, but that, um....I don't even know
what to say about that. This is supposed to be Tidus we're
talking about, right. Sweet ol Tidus, who likes to kiss
underwater and say mushy stuff to Yuna - what have they done to
ya here? First he recklessly puts his and Yuna's lives in
jeopardy with an abrupt booty call, and now this? Sure, I could
totally see him saying something on the pervy side to her, but
it seems rather early in their relationship for that, there's a
time and place and I don't think he'd be blunt either.
I think it's quite fair to say that any and all semblance of
romance has been smashed bloody with a steel mallet at this
point. What a shame. I'm honestly going to have to pretend this
doesn't exist because it's ruining what I loved most about the
games. I don't generally like romances, but I really loved this
one. It was so sweet and tender and I felt like the characters,
regardless of circumstance, would be there for each other. I
wouldn't even give as much of a **** about it being dark and
dreary if the characters were actually themselves and were as
passionate as they were initially created to be.
#Post#: 596--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: kk
Date: March 26, 2014, 12:42 am
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I'm skeptical of the claim this is "entirely canon" as Sora
says. Since when have ANY of the FF novels been fully canon...?
Square doesn't even consider the FFVII novels fully canon, does
it? Or the KH manga's? They're always considered optional
additions, interpretations basically, from how I've heard it.
That's what I've always heard, anyway. So why would this one be
any different?
I figured the audio drama is canon, because, well, they include
it with the game, so, it's kinda shoved in your face as canon
(unfortunately). But the novel??? I don't know...
#Post#: 597--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: SoraxWare
Date: March 26, 2014, 1:30 am
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The audio drama takes place after & and references events from
this novel.
It is canon.
#Post#: 598--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: Akuwah
Date: March 26, 2014, 3:18 am
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> He also brags about the size of his **** at numerous points
and it makes it a little difficult to read.
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Well... I didn't see that one coming *no pun*
#Post#: 599--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: Freyja
Date: March 26, 2014, 9:12 am
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Hi! Iīm new in this chat (actually, I just registered myself in
in yesterday! ^_^)
Iīve been reading this post since the begining and I appreciate
so much the effort and will of Pixel and KaminaSan of
translating the novel (even if is such terrible that they
decided stop doing it hahaha), and the posts of all of you
seeking the truth instead of just accepting the rumors that pray
that"Tidus kicked what looked like a blitzball, but it comes to
be a a bomb, and.... well....
HTML http://abload.de/img/kciksbombttsvx.gif"
(Still being pretty
terrible to me, I wish that thanks to deeper translations...
there werenīt bombs, explosions, and decapitaded heads at all
^_^U)
But finally I decided to log into this chat thanks to SoraxWare:
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING! :))
Final Fantasy X is and always will be for me one of my favorites
Final Fantasy games (among with FFX-2, I loved that game xDD)
and thatīs the reason why I, as you all, feel so bad about this
novel (at least the things that Iīve read and confirmed)
To me the history between Yuna and Tidus is very similar to the
love history of Jack and Rose from Titanic: They were both very
young, they didnīt spend so much time together before they have
to get separated... and well, the end of both (the game and the
film) basically is "the girl loosing his lover, but her heart
will go on" hahaha :P
Thatīs why I love FFX-2! Even if is like a "Barbieīs ending"
(Itīs how I call them: you know, everyone is happy, the bads
become goods, etc xD) I was happy to know that the two of them
were reunited and together again (like in Titanic.... god that
movie always make me cry like a 2 years old baby xD)
About the canon and no-canon thing, the truth Is that I consider
this novel canon but just a little, I mean: to me FFX and FFX-2
are both canon for obvious reasons, is true that in both
Kazushige Nojima was implicated, but there were also more people
who helped him to create such a wonderful game like FFX is (and
even FFX-2 xD). For example Daisuke Watanabe. Iīm sure that
there were more people who gave good advises to Kazushige of
what was good and what should be modificaded.
In brief: To me what is canon in the universe of FFX, is the
result of the collaboration between all this talented, creative
and fantastic persons, thatīs why donīt really (want to xD)
consider this novel canon :)
Well, as you can see I can talk the hind legs off a donkey
hahaha :P
#Post#: 600--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: SilverPrince
Date: March 26, 2014, 11:01 pm
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--- Quote from: SoraxWare link ---
>
> The audio drama takes place after & and references events from
this novel.
>
> It is canon.
>
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I debate that wholeheartedly. All of my arguments are in the
topic on the Inconsistencies and the meaning of canon, I'd
encourage you to read it. It'd be one thing if it was just one
of two minor discrepancies, but there are a lot of major
conflicts in them. When faced with two conflicting canons
(Doctor Who comics vs 50th Anniversary movie), the one in the
dominant format ALWAYS trumps. FFX is a video game series, if it
conflicts with the Novella, the Novella loses.
#Post#: 601--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: SoraxWare
Date: March 27, 2014, 4:26 pm
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Okay. Then you're not very bright.
Moving right along.
So far I'm hoping to have my translation finished by Saturday so
that the whole novella is translated and able to be read, there
are a few things I'd like to point out however.
This is an extremely DARK story. There are a lot of things that
will put most beloved fans off. I don't just mean, 'you won't
want to continue reading', I mean 'you might lose the joy in
ever playing either of the games again.' It really ruins the
character development for Yuna and Tidus quite rapidly. I would
like to also correct a LOT of the rumours that are floating
around however.
1. Tidus and Yuna do NOT have sex in the middle of a storm and
crash. For a majority of the first half of the book, Yuna is
finding it difficult to be as close to Tidus as she used to
(stupid, I know) because she's worried he'll disappear again. In
a flirtatious evening they romantically agree that maybe there's
a way to prove he's real, and they make love. The boat doesn't
crash until the following day when a storm suddenly appears.
2. Dick jokes. Tidus makes a lot of references to the size of
his... sword (sake of censorship). This might make a few
fangirls happy, but all of the times he says these things,
there's no build-up and therefore there's pretty much 0 humour.
They're honestly in the middle of a very serious conversation
and Tidus just randomly says "Something THIS big couldn't
possibly be an illusion". There's also a moment where he says,
"I've been getting a lot of practice lately. Helps because the
size makes it easier to feel confident when I'm going to use
it." So just... be prepared for some weird sexualisation of
Tidus.
3. Breast jokes. Tidus makes a lot of cutesy comments about
Yuna's change in appearance. He also states that if they get
discovered by inhabitants of the island, he'll have to work
overtime to protect her because of what she's wearing. He also
says that if they have to fight, that she'll have to cover
herself up because he'll find it too difficult to concentrate
when he's looking at "an amazing body." He also tells her he's
masturbated to her before. I'm not sure if that word is censored
or not... you'll figure out what I mean.
4. Tidus' death. This is true. Tidus dies in this novel in a
very violently described way. His head is blown off by a bomb.
There's not much that people don't already know about this, so
moving along.
5. Necrophelia. While Yuna doesn't actually go through with this
technique, she does consider it. She recalls the stories of
Yunalesca and considers that it may be the only way. However,
she is referring to having sex with Tidus' resurrected self
(whom she summons back to life AFTER he gets his head blown
off). He is still technically dead after this. She wasn't
considering actually having sex with a corpse, because there
isn't one. However, due to Tidus' behaviour, she feels too
uncomfortable around him.
6. Broken romance. Now, what I would like to point out is that
Tidus is NOT Tidus by the end of this novel. His behaviour is
very bizarre. That is the entire reason why Yuna falls out of
love with him by the time "-Will-" begins. They don't just have
a "argument and break-up." Yuna is still in deep love with Tidus
which is why it's so hard for her because she finds he's
changed too much once she brings him back. They'll most likely
fall back in love by the time X-3 is released, because I only
view this as something that's challenging their relationship,
not a permanent conclusion to it. The reason for Tidus' changed
self is because the memories that were used to summon him back
to life were tainted.
ANYWAY!
Have my translation up soon. Just... seriously... don't read it
if you don't like any of those things.
#Post#: 602--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: CrystalOfLies
Date: March 27, 2014, 4:43 pm
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1: Oh... well, that doesn't seem so bad. At least it saves
Tidus' credibility as a... well, likeable character for a little
while longer.
2: Oh, for the love of... -facedesk- This just wrote a whole new
level in the WTF genre. It feels so dirty and wrong. This is
coming from a fangirl, mind you.
3:
--- Quote ---
> He also tells her he's ****ed to her before
--- End Quote ---
Umm... uh... err... um, UHHHH...
4: I already laughed/cried at this, so no fresh comments here.
5: So would that be considered the 'good' kind of necrophilia?
(Making love to a ghost/unsent as opposed to a corpse.) Even so,
that's still kinda creepy.
6: Whoa, so it wasn't a generalised event said by the summary?
His attitude actually completely changes? That's... actually
kinda interesting, if not a bit heartbreaking, sure. Hopefully
you can translate some of his 'bizarre' dialogue. (But if it's
anything sexual, then... oh dear.)
The thing I'm most concerned about is Tidus' complete 180 turn
in personality by the time they land on the island. Seriously.
In the first chapter, he seems relatively in-character.
Actually, he's probably one of the only few whose personalities
hasn't been angst-ified at that point. But then, once they
crash, he's just... d-uh... Maybe it could be the fact that he's
stranded on an island that's driving him insane, or the
adrenaline of coming back from the dead is finally kicking in
now that he has Yuna with him. But... damn. And people said
X-2's characters were OOC.
#Post#: 603--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: Internal Medicine Doctor
Date: March 27, 2014, 5:52 pm
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So the horrible hidden beast has been revealed.
What do you guys think about that?
#Post#: 604--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: Pyreflies_of_MJ
Date: March 27, 2014, 6:01 pm
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It's nice to hear about the boat thing not being as effed up as
before but everything else is still incredibly devastating. In
fact, I think I'm even more upset now. I can't comment in detail
at the moment but I will. (and Crystal, Imma totally get back to
ya soon ^_^)
All I can say right now is tainted ****ing memories, for real?
So Tidus is not only physically ****ed but mentally screwed as
well, plus, ya know, DEAD. Jesus, does anyone at Square actually
like Tidus, 'cause it's kind of ****ing hard to tell. He may as
well be a goddamn nameless victim from Resident evil. How many
rounds can we sink into zombie Tidus?
God, Tidus is a ****ing zombie, I don't want him to be a zombie.
Why is he a zombie!? *cries* *burns novel*
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