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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: LM_Nova
Date: February 17, 2014, 1:10 am
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--- Quote from: TresDias link ---
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>
> And if you don't think being terminally ill yourself, feeling
useless because you can't help your terminally ill child and
being wracked with guilt over two other people you love being
dead are valid reasons to brood -- well, I don't know what to
tell you. It's going to be pretty impossible for us to have a
constructive conversation if those emotions amount to being
"whiney" in your eyes.
>
--- End Quote ---
My negative feelings towards Cloud in the way he is being
portrayed in the progressing story of VII does not limit my
capacity to hold a constructive conversation. But that’s not
what our discussion is about. We were debating the validity of
another FFX sequel.
The fact of the matter is at the end of both games (VII and X)
the stories were complete. All the central conflicts involving
the protagonist were solved.
However, that’s the point of sequels, to expand characters and
put them in new situations and conditions that allow them to
grow and change. The different on screen dimensions they face
breathe new life into familiar territory. We as fans may react
begrudgingly to the changes but ultimately they make the
characters more complex and interesting….if only to bitch and
moan about them. ;)
#Post#: 524--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: TresDias
Date: February 17, 2014, 6:47 pm
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[Quote=LM_Nova]The fact of the matter is at the end of both
games (VII and X) the stories were complete. All the central
conflicts involving the protagonist were solved.[/quote]
Are you talking about FFVII or the overall Compilation of FFVII?
I really don't know how one could look at Crisis Core and then
Dirge's ending and think there's a resolution there.
If your concern is more with the central conflicts of the
protagonist(s), even then there are dangling threads from Dirge
and CC. Zack let Genesis live. Whatever Genesis does now is a
result of two things: whatever "lesson" he took from that
experience in the Banora Underground and Zack letting him live.
One would think this significant for Cloud in light of him being
Zack's "living legacy." Genesis's awakening is also clearly a
result of the events of Dirge (i.e. the planet has awoken him to
serve some purpose after what happened with Omega).
This story is not finished, so I have to affirm that FFVII made
more sense as grounds for another title than FFX. At this point,
they are both on even ground, but prior to -Eternal Cost- and
-Will-, FFVII was the only one of the two that would be an
intuitive choice.
#Post#: 525--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: LM_Nova
Date: February 18, 2014, 2:05 am
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--- Quote from: TresDias link ---
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>
> Are you talking about FFVII or the overall Compilation of
FFVII?
>
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When I mentioned FFVII I meant the very first game before SE
decided to make it a compilation series.
Don’t be deceived by the torch I hold for FFX, I would love to
see a real full blown sequel to FFVII just as much as anyone
else but that is extremely unlikely. As I’ve stated in the past
it all boils down to time. In order to create a game that
depicts a sprawling planet without restriction that meet fans
expectations as a true successor to the original game it would
take a couple of years. Square Enix is seemly refusing to do
this because it would detract efforts from the other games their
producing chiefly FFXV. Basically the only way SE is going to
touch VII (remake or sequel) is if they don’t hit a home run
with XV.
I think that is the reason why developers are laying the ground
work to continue the story of X and draw old fans back in. Their
saving Final Fantasy VII as their last resort.
#Post#: 526--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: TresDias
Date: February 18, 2014, 10:40 pm
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Yoshinori Kitase has an extremely out-of-touch view of gaming
and gamers:
HTML http://www.joystiq.com/2014/02/17/square-enix-producer-kitase-on-lightning-returns-reviews-hd-rem/
He really thinks it would take ten years to make a full-sized
game in VII's world. That would only be the case because he's a
graphics whore.
#Post#: 527--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: Internal Medicine Doctor
Date: February 19, 2014, 2:27 pm
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What's that word you used?
I thought there wasn't a censor in place.
#Post#: 528--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: OLKv5
Date: February 19, 2014, 2:42 pm
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When the translator said the novel isn't worth translating, does
that mean that he didn't like what he read?
#Post#: 529--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: CrystalOfLies
Date: February 19, 2014, 2:47 pm
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--- Quote from: OLKv5 link ---
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> When the translator said the novel isn't worth translating,
does that mean that he didn't like what he read?
>
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I think he meant that there wasn't any filler in the novel that
was really interesting. Don't forget that translating Japanese
is very hard work, considering that there are three
sub-languages within it. (Hiragana, katakana, kanji) So far, I
agree. Apart from the 'Tidus is feeling lonely' part (I actually
feel pretty sorry for him. :() and the illusion talk, there's
nothing really of interest in the first chapter so far. Of
course, the madness starts on the island. But it probably takes
until halfway into the book to get there.
#Post#: 530--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: TresDias
Date: February 19, 2014, 4:00 pm
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--- Quote from: Internal Medicine Doctor link ---
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> What's that word you used?
>
> I thought there wasn't a censor in place.
>
--- End Quote ---
I said "w-h-o-r-e" that time. The forum has censored me a number
of times lately, but didn't a couple of weeks back when I said
"f-u-c-k." Now it does censor **** and everything else.
#Post#: 531--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: Internal Medicine Doctor
Date: February 19, 2014, 6:46 pm
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--- Quote from: CrystalOfLies link ---
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> [quote author=OLKv5 link=topic=3.msg528#msg528
date=1392842576]
> When the translator said the novel isn't worth translating,
does that mean that he didn't like what he read?
>
--- End Quote ---
I think he meant that there wasn't any filler in the novel that
was really interesting. Don't forget that translating Japanese
is very hard work, considering that there are three
sub-languages within it. (Hiragana, katakana, kanji) So far, I
agree. Apart from the 'Tidus is feeling lonely' part (I actually
feel pretty sorry for him. :() and the illusion talk, there's
nothing really of interest in the first chapter so far. Of
course, the madness starts on the island. But it probably takes
until halfway into the book to get there.
[/quote]
Although that's a nice way of looking at it, Pixel simply didn't
like what he was reading.
It disgusted him, and he said he might very well stop. He did
shortly after he made that comment.
--- Quote from: TresDias link ---
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> [quote author=Internal Medicine Doctor
link=topic=3.msg527#msg527 date=1392841635]
> What's that word you used?
>
> I thought there wasn't a censor in place.
>
--- End Quote ---
I said "w-h-o-r-e" that time. The forum has censored me a number
of times lately, but didn't a couple of weeks back when I said
"f-u-c-k." Now it does censor **** and everything else.
[/quote]
There may be an automatic censor. I'll do some tweaking and see
if I can't do some custom bypassing.
--
Alright, I looked into it a bit and the censor is inherently
unavoidable. Once ads are initiated, an unmovable censor is put
in place. You can bypass having a word censored by putting .
between the letters of the word, so the censor won't detect it.
You can do this with any character, but using . makes the
character unnoticeable.
#Post#: 532--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
DIR By: TresDias
Date: February 20, 2014, 6:17 am
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Thanks for looking into it. I'm glad you enabled ads, though. I
got a $130 phone for $30 through Cricket Wireless because of
them. =P
My contract with Verizon is up this month, so ... this is on
topic, right? XD
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