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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: DaMastah
Date: January 20, 2014, 6:04 pm
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--- Quote from: Internal Medicine Doctor link ---
>
> What do you mean "on the web"?
>
> If you have any doubts on what you've read, I'd be happy to
answer them.
>
--- End Quote ---
For example the disturbing sex-fayth method on tidus' headless
corpse... :s
I've read that all over the web...
#Post#: 367--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: Internal Medicine Doctor
Date: January 20, 2014, 6:23 pm
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The speculation regarding necrophilia with Tidus's corpse came
about as a result of very vague preliminary details on the
sex-fayth method's presence in the novella.
The only details people had at first were the facts of Tidus
dying, Yuna resurrecting him, and the possibility to use sex to
make fayth. Stringing these three together, an unreasonable
conclusion was reached that Yuna must have fucked Tidus's dead
body to revive him by making him a fayth.
As more information came to light, however, some things pointed
towards this being implausible. Tidus's body disappeared after
he died (as he was made of pyreflies), which rendered sex
impossible, and the sex-fayth was told in a separate narrative.
There is no plausibility to this theory anymore, of what scant
reason it had to being with.
The sex-fayth method was used by a female summoner a thousand
years prior to the events in the novella, in Machina War-era
Zanarkand. Her intention was to create a fayth without having to
sacrifice her guardian lover.
That is the only application and knowledge we have of the
sex-fayth method in the story as of now.
#Post#: 369--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: DaMastah
Date: January 21, 2014, 6:59 pm
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I must admit I feel relieved, that was so sick.
Thanks for this detailed answer.
Can't wait to read the translation though ;)
#Post#: 372--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: Internal Medicine Doctor
Date: January 22, 2014, 1:56 pm
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When it comes to the controversial subjects, I will post the
translations word for word. However, unless allowed, approved
and allocated by the translators themselves, I will not post a
fully translated manuscript.
No need to worry either way, though! You'll be getting the
important information regardless.
#Post#: 378--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: CrystalOfLies
Date: January 25, 2014, 2:52 pm
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Okay guys, I was browsing Mognetcentral today, and I came
across, I think, this Japanese person who is attempting to speak
English. He has a friend who has read chapters 3, 4 and 5, and
has provided crudely translated summaries on their contents. I
quote:
--- Quote ---
> chapter 3
>
> - Talking about new character Vakum (male) and Summoner Kushu
(female). It's began when they woke up after they have sex....
(Oh... Nojima) They're on top floor of
１号吸排気ダクト.
>
> - Kushu said there's man walking at the coast. He's picking up
the ball from bag while looking at Kushu. Valum shouted that
it's bomb!!
>
> - The bomb exploded. Valum and Kushu escaped from the
explosive range. Valum thought that he must kill that man, and
the heretic mage... (who?)
--- End Quote ---
For some reason,
号吸排気ダクト isn't
translated. Valum and Kushu might be the guardian and summoner
from the Boy's Side of the novel. Obviously, this is
foreshadowing the use and existence of the island's bombs, and
this other mysterious character.
--- Quote ---
> chapter 4
>
> - Gullwing gang're chatting on Celcius. From the radar, they
saw the big storm that coming to southern of Besaid island. They
tried to communicate with Yuna, but the communication device's
unworkable with no reason. Shinra said he can't fix it because
"I'm just a kid".
>
> - Paine told everone that they must go to Besaid and tell
villagers about the storm.
>
> - Aniki (Rikku's brother) 's crying. He loved Yuna. But now
Tidus came back... so there's no chance for Aniki anymore. Aniki
refused to come to Besaid. He don't want to see Yuna with Tidus.
>
> - Paine hesitated, she thought that the villagers may used to
the storm. While they are chatting, suddenly the radar's
unworkable.
>
> - Shinra told that this engine had made 1,000 years ago, so it
could be broken anytime. Nowadays Al-Bhed can't make a powerful
engine like this. Their ancestor didn't leave any blueprint for
them.
>
--- End Quote ---
Back to the present time, a strong storm is approaching Besaid,
and Shinra can't get a signal with Yuna. Of course, Aniki
(Brother)'s jealous, and Shinra tells them that the Celsius is
1000 years old, and more powerful than any airship today.
Now guys, this is where it gets weird for me:
--- Quote ---
> chapter 5
>
> - Tidus's coming to explore the ship "Aurochs-Ace". He come to
ship' cabin and found that room's luxury just like the room in
hotel. (Others Besaid Aurochs member have decorated it for him
and Yuna.) Tidus napped in that room.
>
> - He woke up in the night. When he looked out through the
window, he couldn't see Besaid coast. The ship had sailed out
for a long way. That's shocked him.
>
> - Tidus ran to the deck, Yuna in kimono's the one who
controlled the ship. Yuna said sorry to keep you waited. At
first Tidus's angry, but Yuna said she's the one who should be
angry because she had waited for him 2 years! Tidus accepted and
said sorry to her.
>
> - Yuna said that his team (Besaid Aurochs members) told her to
use this ship to stay with Tidus tonight. She said with shyness,
Tidus also.
>
> - Yuna said the storm's coming, they should moor the ship
somewhere. Tidus tried to help Yuna control the ship, he had
many knowledge about ship. He remembered the time when he was in
Zanarkand, that he lived in the ship.
>
> - But... from the aroma that he scent from Yuna's hair, it's
turn him onnn!!! He invited Yuna to go to the cabin. Yuna tried
to refused because they should moor the ship somewhere first,
but Tidus still dragged her to the cabin anyway.
--- End Quote ---
Tidus and Yuna are on their ship, and apparently Yuna can now
pilot boats. Woo, more things that Yuna can do out of nowhere.
At least they acknowledged that Tidus has experience with
driving ships since he used to live on one. Also for some
reason, the Besaid Aurochs said to Yuna to use the ship to spend
some time with Tidus. Also, the first sign of Yuna being 'angry'
with him, and Tidus' first sign of 'constant apologising'.
The last bullet point is what gets me the most, though... Tidus
tries to help her pilot the boat, but he can't because... he's
aroused by the scent of Yuna's hair. Then he drags her to the
cabin for some most likely private time, ignoring the fact that
they're in the middle of the ocean current and could get swept
away. Tidus, for a supposed experienced sailor, you sure don't
remember the basic safety rules.
So... yeah. The reason they got shipwrecked and went through all
that swimsuit-blitzbomb sexy-fayth resurrection stuff... is
because Tidus got horny because of Yuna's hair.
God, Tidus. What have they done to you?
Obviously, the best resort is waiting for KaminaSan and Pixel to
provide their sides of the story, but given that this person is
most likely Japanese, I think we've had a shot of what's to come
and be expected.
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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: catnip
Date: January 25, 2014, 3:54 pm
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Um... "Aniki"? ???
#Post#: 380--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: pierpaolo
Date: January 25, 2014, 5:03 pm
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あに (ani) means Brother
あにき (aniki ) means Big Brother ( I use
Google translate )
I don't know if there's a Kanji for Aniki!
#Post#: 381--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: Internal Medicine Doctor
Date: January 25, 2014, 10:00 pm
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I'm sure it's, if anything, a preview of things to come as you
said.
I wouldn't trust anything until we get the official translations
from KaminaSan and Pixel. Not to discredit this source, but we
are reassured with our translators that the information we're
getting isn't muddled at all.
After the necrophilia scandal,
it's best to keep our eyesight keen.
#Post#: 384--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: TresDias
Date: January 26, 2014, 10:51 pm
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Lots of new information from hitoshura at TheLifestream.net,
where Pixel and I are from. He's been a translator in the FF
fandom for more than ten years and was the first to provide a
summary of Nojima's The Kids Are Alright FFVII novel a couple
years ago:
HTML http://thelifestream.net/lifestream-projects/translations/11751/summary-of-the-new-ffvii-novel/
He confirmed the boat sex thing between Tidus and Yuna the other
day, by the way.
What I'm about to provide here is an explanation of the
sex-fayth method. I'm summarizing from what hito said across
several posts:
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A summoner can have sex with someone (it can be anyone, not just
another summoner; it just happened to be another summoner in the
Boy's Side story) as a means of reaching a bonded mental state
in order to create a particular kind of fayth called a Beast
Core (獣芯). Sex isn't the only way for them to
reach that mental union with one another, but you could say it's
the quick and dirty way (pun intended)..
The person who becomes the Beast Core is still being sacrificed,
but not in the same way as when their soul is pulled from their
living body and placed in a monstrous fayth statue. Instead,
they slowly crystallize into a glass-like state, but still
retain their human shape. As the Beast Core, they provide the
summoner with the power to create pyreforms
(幻光体) based on imagination rather than just
the strict blueprints offered by the fayth from FFX. If the
Beast Core's bond with the summoner is strong, the summoner can
create damn near anything. Otherwise, the summoner can only
create a somewhat limited range of "aeons" based on their own
experiences (we don't see any traditional aeons in this story --
just replicas of things that actually existed).
----
He also explained that the sex-fayth method recounted in the
Boy's Side story involved a female summoner named Kushu
(クシュ) and a male summoner named Ifarnal
(イファーナル). Kushu
actually became the Beast Core for Ifarnal. Briah
(ブライア) was Kushu's non-summoner
lover.
The rest of these are quotes from hito:
[quote=hito]the island, which was besaid in the past, was
summoned by ifarnal (who was on the island before the end of the
war). ifarnal survived what happened on the island and lived to
be 90-odd, but when he died became an unsent. yuna doesn't meet
ifarnal on the island itself, but kushu who was another summoner
and the one who became the core for ifarnal. although that
wasn't the actual kushu, but rather a summoned form of her.
after tidus blows up (that doesn't sound real but it is a real
thing that is actually in this book omg) ifarnal speaks to yuna
and tells her how to bring tidus back.
other things this book decides are things now, unsents can have
kids with humans
and yuna has a mole somewhere only tidus would know
know in a biblical sense, more like[/quote]
[quote=hito]i can't remember the specifics right now, but
ifarnal does tell yuna about the old way of summoning. there is
something about how if tidus realises what he is then that would
have a detrimental effect on his existence (as in it might end).
this also applies if he goes somewhere where there are lots of
pyreflies.[/quote]
[quote=hito]briah (or valm, another unsent who was on the same
island as ifarnal but got shot by an angry albhed) goes to
confront him and then he gets blown up by one of those bomb
balls
so he's just dead now. [Note by TresDias: These next two
paragraphs are about Ifarnal, not Briah; hito was answering my
question about what Ifarnal's intent was in telling Yuna how to
resurrect Tidus, as I was wondering if perhaps he was the one
who killed Tidus so that he could tell Yuna how to bring him
back and cause her to weaken the Farplane] i don't think he
really had a plan. i don't think there was a plan here. it was
just a bunch of stuff that kind of happened. tidus blowing up
seems like an accident, but now that i think about it i don't
know why ifarnal told yuna what to do to bring him back
he just kind of spoke to her via magic or something and told her
what to do. but the price was that he would seal away her
memories of what happened (which she later remembers), because
if they both remember then it would all be undone. or something.
conflict would come in the forms of:
- tidus trying to spend some time with yuna the night he
returned (so he goes on the boat and then yuna sneaks on and
they sail away into a storm)
- tidus and yuna stranded at sea (which i thought went on for a
bit longer than it needed)
- tidus and yuna on the mysterious island and how they will
leave it (tidus literally just warps away, he gets that special
power for reasons/i guess because he's just pyreflies. yuna gets
taken on to a boat by ifarnal but i don't remember if they gave
an explanation about how that happened since it was a real boat
and just seems to just move from the island to the boat)
- briah going a bit insane when he gets his memories back
- tidus and yuna doing what ifarnal/kushu asks and if they will
do it (i don't think they actually did)
- the nature of tidus' new existence
- yuna feeling some distance from tidus, which is a running
theme
the last one is probably the most problematic part.
realistically yeah, it makes sense. for yuna tidus has been gone
for two years, she has gone through a lot of stuff and tidus is
still 17 and how he was in ffx. but that's been a big complaint
about it, yuna's treatment of tidus. she's not being a total
bitch or anything, there's still love there but it's tempered
with 'that aspect of tidus is bugging me'. she doesn't seem as
happy as she does in ffx-2's ending, like she's just been
reunited with her love.
tidus dying too. this story starts right after ffx-2. to make a
timeline of the series, it would go:
- ffx
- eternal calm
- ffx-2
- eternal cost
- 100% ending of x-2?
- last mission
- will
- ffx-3 which we all know they are going to try to make now
at most it would be a couple of days after tidus came back
(depending how long they spend floating at sea, which i can't
imagine being more than a few hours so that would place the
island stuff starting the day after he came back), and they
unceremoniously blow him up. which is a bit of a bitch. but then
they went from 'the world's purest kiss' in ffx to tidus being a
horndog trying to get laid a bunch.
it feels a lot more like it was written to lay the groundwork
for a sequel than anything else. some of the new stuff is
interesting, but it's still weird overall.[/quote]
#Post#: 385--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
DIR By: city
Date: January 27, 2014, 1:40 am
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Wow this is a lot of info to take in!
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