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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: TresDias Date: January 16, 2014, 5:33 pm
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Concerning the Final Summoning as the only way to defeat Sin
matter, I don't think that sounds like an inconsistency at all.
Yes, they penetrated Sin's armor and reached its core with just
their weapons and magic once before -- but that was also while
it was subdued and kept relatively docile by Jecht, whose
humanity was pushed to the forefront of his mind by the Hymn of
the Fayth. And the song only worked because he was particularly
fond of it.
It was a unique set of presumably unrepeatable circumstances.
It also does stand to reason that a Final Aeon could
legitimately destroy Sin now unless Yu Yevon has been called
back as well. If it's just the monster, a Final Aeon could do
it.
It didn't work in the past not because the Final Aeons lacked
the power to defeat Sin, but because Yu Yevon would possess them
and use them as the core of a new Sin once the job was done,
burning out the aeon's fayth and killing the summoner in the
process.
Of course, if Yu Yevon was called back as well, the Final
Summoning would be useless.
As for why it's more powerful than a regular aeon, Yunalesca
explained that in the original game. It has nothing to do with
the sex-fayth method and everything to do with the bond between
the summoner and the summoned. She says that bond could exist
between any two people. It's the bond between friends, parent
and child, lovers, etc. That's what gives the Final Aeon its
power and makes it more powerful than that same aeon would be if
summoned by a different summoner.
#Post#: 343--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: Internal Medicine Doctor Date: January 16, 2014, 7:19 pm
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Inconsistency in the way it's presented. Yuna speaks as if the
teachings have never been questioned, when she visibly and
publicly defeated Sin without the use of the final aeon only
three years prior.
The public, which the majority resented the sacrificial process
of the summoner's pilgrimage, would not so eagerly endorse such
a controversial and ostensibly unnecessary way of defeating Sin.
It wasn't challenged at all, which leads to a proposed
inconsistency.
Nojima obviously has reasons for why the characters are doing
what they are doing, so it's only seen as an inconsistency for
now with the information we currently have.
For the matter of Jecht, he was defeated under special
circumstances, that is true. Sin's reincarnation this time could
be different from previous as well, leading to speculation upon
the necessary way to conquer it.
However, just because Jecht's Sin was subdued under apparent
unrepeatable pretenses doesn't mean Yuna would so assuredly
proclaim the final aeon will be summoned to the public.
This leads to the concept that there must be an ulterior motive
for Yuna or some missing plot information that's yet to be
revealed, as otherwise it wouldn't make sense for them to
discard the revelation that comes from disregarding Yevon dogma
just three years prior.
As for the final aeon being created by strong bonds, this new
information gives birth to two theories:
- Either every aeon is created by sacrificing a person with
meaningful connections,
or
- The final aeon is simply an appreciated term for creating an
extremely powerful aeon.
The sex-fayth method described in the novella could be referring
to either theory. The woman summoner could've been trying to
create a normal fayth or a special stronger fayth. The sex-fayth
method exists to introduce a way in which one can bypass that
strong-bond requirement.
#Post#: 344--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: TresDias Date: January 16, 2014, 9:52 pm
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Oh, definitely the sex-fayth method has been introduced as a way
of getting around that requirement. I would doubt, though, that
every fayth was made with the idea in mind that it be someone's
final aeon unless a lot more summoners than just Seymour gave up
once they had the power to defeat Sin.
#Post#: 346--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: Internal Medicine Doctor Date: January 16, 2014, 10:12 pm
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Rather than every fayth intended to be a final aeon, the method
of sacrifice to make the final aeon isn't exclusive to just
that.
Or the final aeon is just an appreciated phrase and the
sacrifice is just to make extremely strong aeons with bonds to
their creators.
One of the two.
Who knows?
We're getting translations on the book that are in progress now,
so perhaps this will be settled in a small time.
#Post#: 348--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: TresDias Date: January 17, 2014, 12:42 am
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I'm not sure I quite understand what point you were making
there. Are you wondering if every aeon was created in a
situation where there was one particular summoner who would
benefit from its power more than others?
The Ultimania Omega for FFX isn't clear on that point. I do
recall that it tells us some of the present aeons existed before
Sin and some came after -- i.e., there were a few already in
Zanarkand, which Bevelle then divided up among the temples for
the purpose of the pilgrimage and then there were others made
later when new temples were built. I would guess that the
post-Sin fayth would be Yevon devotees who wanted to contribute,
but whether they were close to any particular summoner, I would
doubt -- otherwise they would have presumably been used as a
final aeon at Bevelle's behest, in which case those fayth would
no longer exist.
#Post#: 349--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: Internal Medicine Doctor Date: January 17, 2014, 2:49 pm
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You're making the mistake of exclusively attributing the
sacrificial method to final aeons, although only within the
terms of the theory I proposed. That may not be the case in this
theory.
Although, I personally lean more towards the final aeon just
being an appreciated term. Strong bond = strong aeon. That goes
in all cases.
That would make the female summoner's intention in Boy's Side to
create a much stronger aeon than usual.
Usual taken lightly.
#Post#: 350--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: TresDias Date: January 17, 2014, 3:40 pm
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I'm still confused. I'm not saying the sacrifice is exclusive to
final aeons. I'm saying the opppsite of that. Every fayth we
encounter in FFX involved someone sacrificing their life to
become a fayth (we see a projection of their original form when
we revisit the fayth in the temples). I'm also saying, though,
that if those fayth were close to a summoner, it could be
assumed -- at least in the cases of the post-Sin fayth -- that
they would have ended up being final aeons.
Do we even know yet what the sex-fayth method does in terms of
creating a new fayth/aeon? Presumably it doesn't sacrifice
anyone, but is this known for sure?
#Post#: 351--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: Internal Medicine Doctor Date: January 17, 2014, 4:56 pm
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Yes, that's correct. It's assumed that if that was the case,
where the sacrificial method was used for all fayth, they are
all technically final aeons.
The thing that differs from them is that the final aeon is the
one that is possessed by Yu Yevon, therefore killing the
summoner.
As of now, they're both plausible.
The sex-fayth method is just a way to bypass the sacrificial
method to create fayth. That's all we know. We may get some more
crucial details this weekend, however! Clear up this matter for
good.
#Post#: 426--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: gyigyo Date: January 29, 2014, 3:07 am
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What if Yuna will be the "NEXT yunalesca" and she will be
waiting the other summoners in sluty outfit..
and the other question is YUNA is died too in the novel or just
tida?
#Post#: 444--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: Internal Medicine Doctor Date: January 30, 2014, 6:27 pm
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Tidus died, but was resurrected.
Check up on the novella page to inform yourself of all the
information we've gathered so far.
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