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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: Internal Medicine Doctor Date: January 2, 2014, 12:25 am
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[quote author=Akuwah link=topic=2.msg29#msg29 date=1388643541]
And you're awesome for making it ;D Saves the trouble people may
have trying to dig more info regarding -Will, 2.5 and 3 :)
[/quote]
Thank you, I appreciate that heavily. My passion for the series
exists to the bounds that I think nobody should be misinformed
or misled about new developments, and instead should be
encouraged to speculate and be excited, and be educated
thoroughly before deciding to walk away from it.
[quote author=Akuwah link=topic=2.msg29#msg29 date=1388643541]
I got a feeling that he will discover it eventually, -Will-
itself is just the tip of an iceberg. Anyways, like you said,
one can only speculate 8)
[/quote]
If he does, it'll probably would happen at the end of FFX-3. No
point in having a game for Tidus to realize he's not supposed to
be there in the first five minutes.
They're going to stress the tragic romance of this couple until
the very end.
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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: Akuwah Date: January 2, 2014, 12:58 am
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[quote]They're going to stress the tragic romance of this couple
until the very end.[/quote]
Looks like I'd have to deal with possible inevitable NTR in this
game :-X
So if the Final summoning actually uses the sex-fayth ritual
then:
1)Jecht and Braska must've done it.
2)Isaaru, Maroda and Pacce were planning to defeat Sin by using
the Final summoning and they're... siblings (luckily they quit
halfway though).
3)Lulu and Lady Ginnem were on a pilgrimage but unfortunately
couldn't make it.
Yunalesca never mentioned sex (understably, T-rated game), only
Summoners have to sacrifice one of their Guardians to get the
Final Aeon, unless the word sacrifice is actually an euphemism
for the word sex. :-\
Issues of homosexuality, incest and pedophilia are involved
here. These issues may or may not land SE in hot water, remember
how people were making a big deal out of X-2 because of their
skimpy outfits [s]lol as if X-2 is the only game to feature
characters wearing skimpy outfits[/s]? Can't imagine X-3.
Well, that adds another question to the plot direction of X-3
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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: Internal Medicine Doctor Date: January 2, 2014, 1:20 am
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Ahh, you see, those were the source of much controversy the past
day or two. I'll clear it up for you.
This sex-fayth method has only been referenced in use once, and
that's with the story of the two summoners and the summoner's
beloved guardian. We only know that this one case utilized the
sex-fayth method. It's not right to assume all other fayths
created followed the same method, even though it's possible that
they could've been made that way.
The main vague canon method of making the fayth established in
FFX stands, which is that Yu Yevon or someone else capable of
performing such removes your soul from your body while it still
lives.
Both result with an endless dreaming state for those who
sacrificed themselves.
Jecht and Braska had no sex, and neither did Seymour and his
mother or anyone else, for that matter. It is assumed they were
made fayth with the classical canon method, instead of the
sex-fayth method.
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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: Akuwah Date: January 2, 2014, 1:26 am
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[quote]It's not right to assume all other fayths created
followed the same method, even though it's possible that they
could've been made that way.[/quote]
Fair enough, I jumped the gun there with my assumption :-\
[quote]Jecht and Braska had no sex, and neither did Seymour and
his mother or anyone else, for that matter. It is assumed they
were made fayth with the classical canon method, instead of the
sex-fayth method.[/quote]
This one I can tolerate, if it's with the other method, ummm,
no.
Also thanks for clearing this up :)
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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: Internal Medicine Doctor Date: January 2, 2014, 1:35 am
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Oh, that's alright! Most everybody assumed that at first when
the details came out.
Since nobody knew exactly how the fayth were maid prior to that
announcement, when the sex-fayth method came out everybody
thought it was the only way and that it applied to all fayth
created.
It's an honest and easy mistake to make, one that is almost
bound to occur when there isn't enough information at hand.
You could imagine the uproar when that detail first came out.
People were accusing the novella of not just homosexuality,
incest and paedophilia, but necrophilia and bestiality, too.
Things quickly got out of hand until more information was
provided which attributed the method to an isolated case a
millennium past in the game's timeline. Things settled down
quickly afterwards.
That's why we're very hesitant to post preliminary stuff, so
stuff like that won't happen. Who knows how many people turned
away from the potential of a third game because they heard such
insane rumours?
Hopefully genuine speculation about the game and the issues
arisen by the audio drama will keep the subject buoyed and
people interested.
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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: Akuwah Date: January 2, 2014, 1:47 am
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[quote]You could imagine the uproar when that detail first came
out.
People were accusing the novella of not just homosexuality,
incest and paedophilia, but necrophilia and bestiality, too.
Things quickly got out of hand until more information was
provided which attributed the method to an isolated case a
millennium past in the game's timeline. Things settled down
quickly afterwards.[/quote]
True, I was there lurking on neogaf but luckily one of the users
mentioned that the method of creating the common fayth and the
final fayth (?) aren't the same. Mention of the creation of
weaker, common fayths/aeons is by, well, common way lol, and
that to create the stronger fayths/aeons, which I assume is the
final fayth is by using the sex method. So I guess I got mixed
up on that part 'cuz I didn't know that there is another way to
create the final fayth without the use of sex.
Luckily I asked though because I'm sure people who just found
out about X-2.5 might wonder about the same thing.
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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: Internal Medicine Doctor Date: January 2, 2014, 2:04 am
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You see, I'm hesitant to put up the classic canon method as
being weaker because I'm not sure if that's for real or just
inferencing based on the plot developments.
Nobody knows absolutely which methods are used for which, but we
can assume the classic canon method was used for the pilgrimage
fayth (excluding the final aeon), which are:
Valefor
Ifrit
Ixion
Shiva
and Bahamut.
With that information, you can assume that since the final aeon
is stronger than the pilgrimage fayth, the sex-fayth method must
be a method that creates more powerful aeons.
However, people took these assumptions to the level that every
final aeon was made with the sex-fayth method, which may or may
not be true. All we know for sure is that in one case a
millennium ago, a summoner had sex with another summoner to
spare her beloved guardian the fate of a classical canon
method's fayth.
Until we get information that links the sex-fayth method with
that which makes the final aeon in more than one case, we'll say
the sex-fayth method is an isolated, although perpetually
optional, method.
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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: dez112 Date: January 2, 2014, 2:37 pm
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I'm actually surprised that the audio drama did not mention
anything about Rikku, Paine, Kimahri Ronso, Gippal, Nooj,
LeBlanc etc.
So based on what I've heard on the bonus audio (if this is
correct) :
Baralai - Spira Committee Leader?
Chuami & Kurgam - Work under Baralai
Yuna - Priestess to the "Yevoners"
Wakka - Caretaker (I think?)
Lulu - Mayor of Besaid
Tidus - Blitzball Star
Also out of 10, how do you rate the audio drama?
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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: Internal Medicine Doctor Date: January 2, 2014, 2:54 pm
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Baralai is the head of the Spirian Council, yes.
Chuami and Kurugum operate under him, although we know Kurugum
is also a sender and Chuami claims to be Auron's daughter.
Yuna is held in high regard as former High Summoner and now High
Priestess of the Yevonites. No matter how you paint it, she's an
extremely large influential figure in Spira.
Wakka and Lulu are married, and are taking care of their child.
Lulu is the mayor of the town of Besaid, and Wakka helps her run
the town and facilitate audiences with Yuna. They are known
throughout Spira as two of the legendary guardians who
accompanied Yuna, garnering them great respect as well.
Tidus is known as a Blitzball superstar, highly popular amongst
the Spirian populace. He is held to the same respect as a
legendary guardian as Lulu and Wakka are. He also is known to be
the lover of Yuna, which summarily garners him significant
attention in all three facets.
The audio drama is pretty good. I enjoyed it a lot, and the new
characters are interesting. The behaviours of the other
characters haven't changed and are faithful to their
personalities, while still providing new developments concerning
the issues presented.
The main issue was engaging and reasonable, too, and provides
much information to chew and speculate on.
All in all, I'd give it an 8.5/10. It was very well presented,
and deserving of thirty minutes.
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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
By: stathicus Date: January 2, 2014, 6:11 pm
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Do you guys think Square is even going to mention sex in X-3? I
highly doubt it. It took them years to get two of their main
characters just to kiss. Square has always purposely stayed away
from anything of that nature. These novels with explicit
material apparently come out all the time in Japan but most of
the content is ignored in the actual games. I don't see the
sex-fayth method being mentioned in X-3 at all, never mind them
making a plot point about Yuna sleeping with Kurugum. I guess
you can argue this can happen off screen but that means they
would have to explain it at some point and I don't think they'll
even do that outside the novel.
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