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       #Post#: 2185--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXVI: Transformers [DAY 1]
       By: hoezzy Date: May 14, 2020, 12:24 pm
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       Not finding the arguments against jerk very convincing, KKE is
       at the top of my sus list for now but not enough to be killed so
       Idk
       #Post#: 2186--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXVI: Transformers [DAY 1]
       By: Le_Shrub Date: May 14, 2020, 12:35 pm
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       I'm gonna throw in my thoughts here.
       - jerk does not seem very wolfy to me at all. It looks to me
       like he's just kind of panicking like I did last game when
       someone accused me of being a wolf, and he's just as much of a
       scapegoat as me or Colts (hence why he got lynched so easily as
       fool last game)
       - Lena and Kowhai are just memeing around this game, and while
       this isn't necessarily "scummy", it's possible they're just
       trying to stay out of the spotlight (Lena moreso than Kowhai,
       however Lena acts like this all the time.) I don't read either
       of them as scum, just making a point.
       - I don't see the point of huz, Zech, and jerk all claiming
       human early, that's what everyone is going to claim when
       pressed. This could be a "look at me I'm so human" strategy, but
       I feel like that's not a workable wolf strategy anyway (see my
       Desperation fail). Not suspicious of them for now, on my radar
       though.
       - KKE, on the other hand, flew out of the gate accusing people
       from what I saw, and I think she's behaving sort of erratically.
       She reads the most scum to me right now, and to break the tie
       I'll lunch KKE.
       #Post#: 2188--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXVI: Transformers [DAY 1]
       By: leia Date: May 14, 2020, 12:42 pm
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       Kowhai- Penguin (15)/KitKats (31)
       jerk- KitKats (34)
       Le_Shrub- KitKats (51)
       Penguin022- jerk (21)
       KitKats- jerk (35)
       Lena- jerk (22)/unlynch (23)
       xX_4vYf0x3nBy_Xx (2/3)
       Cosmic (2/3)
       ZechAkari (1/3)
       Huz
       KitKats: 3
       jerk: 2
       New update time at 1 AM EST because the forum was down for a
       while. Avy, Cos, Zech, y'all are at risk of being
       modkilled/replaced if you don't post more.
       #Post#: 2192--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXVI: Transformers [DAY 1]
       By: xX_4vY_5i0nN4cH_Xx Date: May 14, 2020, 1:15 pm
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       On the one hand, Izzy spent the entirety of Bomb Scare II
       behaving extremely erratically, and even without the context of
       her recent playstyle this doesn't read as super out of character
       for her. On the other hand, none of the other leads make much
       sense to me - jerk's posts seem far too obvious and hastily made
       to be scummy, especially after Le_Shrub doing the same thing in
       Desperation as a wolf got him lynched - and Izzy's behaviour
       here, although chaotic, feels a lot more pointed than it was
       last game (since ive been using a ton of comparisons to past
       games this post: see me spending the entirety of the first day
       of An Abnormal Evening Outside panicking and pushing for various
       mislynches the moment I was accused).
       To answer Penguin's question [39], Shrubby initially gave off
       slight Arso leans for that post, but I see no reason to continue
       suspecting him at the moment.
       Fuck it, may as well cast a vote. Lynch KKE.
       #Post#: 2195--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXVI: Transformers [DAY 1]
       By: Cosmic Date: May 14, 2020, 1:52 pm
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       [quote author=leia link=topic=47.msg2188#msg2188
       date=1589478161]
       Kowhai- Penguin (15)/KitKats (31)
       jerk- KitKats (34)
       Le_Shrub- KitKats (51)
       Penguin022- jerk (21)
       KitKats- jerk (35)
       Lena- jerk (22)/unlynch (23)
       xX_4vYf0x3nBy_Xx (2/3)
       Cosmic (2/3)
       ZechAkari (1/3)
       Huz
       KitKats: 3
       jerk: 2
       New update time at 1 AM EST because the forum was down for a
       while. Avy, Cos, Zech, y'all are at risk of being
       modkilled/replaced if you don't post more.
       [/quote]
       don't worry, I'm not going to ignore the post requirement, even
       though I think 3 is excesssive
       Don't currently feel as if Iz is scum, Avy makes a good point
       about her actions being more 'pointed'. Not much more to add as
       of yet that hasn't been said.
       #Post#: 2196--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXVI: Transformers [DAY 1]
       By: Penguin022 Date: May 14, 2020, 2:13 pm
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       [quote author=huz link=topic=47.msg2185#msg2185 date=1589477056]
       Not finding the arguments against jerk very convincing, KKE is
       at the top of my sus list for now but not enough to be killed so
       Idk
       [/quote]
       This post is bad. Lynch huz.
       [quote author=Cosmic link=topic=47.msg2195#msg2195
       date=1589482358]
       Don't currently feel as if Iz is scum, Avy makes a good point
       about her actions being more 'pointed'. Not much more to add as
       of yet that hasn't been said.
       [/quote]
       ehhhh this post also leans bad but it's Cosmic so who knows
       My other notes are that I think some of the defence of jerk
       makes sense, and I agree with points against KitKats, but (sorry
       this is meta) I think she's playing identically to how she
       played in Desperation, when I was completely wrong. I think if I
       mow through some of the nonsense she does occasionally make a
       strong point, and I think she is ultimately slightly leaning
       town. huz leans bad bc his posts consistently have been
       almost-points but not really and without lynching anyone, and
       also not lynching KitKats for some reason? I also think at least
       one of the people who still thinks I was serious about the arso
       claim has got to be a wolf or arso, I feel like it's too obvious
       to genuinely believe and I am probably the only person in this
       game that seems like they would claim arso for real. Surprise
       surprise huz fits into this category (but ofc he finishes his
       post with "or maybe not").
       also lena reads bad until I get something from her of note
       and thanks @avy I was thinking something along those lines too
       #Post#: 2197--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXVI: Transformers [DAY 1]
       By: emertxEtaKtiK Date: May 14, 2020, 2:20 pm
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       [quote author=huz link=topic=47.msg2146#msg2146 date=1589397561]
       Penguin's arsonist joke wasn't funny and there is a good chance
       it is one of those meta strategies. This could be a harmless
       joke as well. I doubt this is important at all, except maybe
       resulting in le funny moment if penguin turns out to be arso
       KKE hasn't lynched anyone yet, but it seems like she wants to
       start a lynch train against le_shrub (with also being suspicious
       about jerk). l_s and jerk both are highly lynchable players and
       if a wolf was trying to push for a mislynch they would go for
       either of these players. Keeping a close eye on KitKats.
       [/quote]
       >Huz accuses me of trying to subtlely start a lynch against
       easily accused players in the past
       When just looking at this post itself, it doesn't really look
       scummy; a lot of players in the past, including me, have made
       posts in the past (i.e. see how people dealt with Jerk in BSII
       before he was officially lynched), including Huz himself
       (Priest) who decided to point out Jerk without lynching him
       immediately.
       [quote author=Kowhai link=topic=47.msg2154#msg2154
       date=1589403675]
       lynch kke for writing too many words
       if you want a serious explanation then it feels like she's
       trying to soft push other people into lynching penguin, who is
       less likely to be wolf (whether he's arsonist I do not know),
       while avoiding getting her hands dirty with a mislynch herself.
       idk just a thought
       [/quote]Kowhai basically copied EXACTLY what Huz wrote above
       here, in her own words, but still.
       [quote author=Kowhai link=topic=47.msg2184#msg2184
       date=1589458271]
       I don't think it's hypocritical for me to point out how kke's
       behaviour with the whole 'why aren't you lynching penguin?'
       thing could be construed against sus just bc I basically placed
       a joke vote against penguin. not saying it's def true, but one
       thing doesn't cancel the other out. don't find the reads against
       jerk very interesting or compelling, so I'm staying where I am,
       even though I don't have much idea really.
       [/quote]
       >Kowhai notes that arguments against Jerk are boring, and notes
       her uncertainty in her lynch against me
       [quote author=huz link=topic=47.msg2185#msg2185 date=1589477056]
       Not finding the arguments against jerk very convincing, KKE is
       at the top of my sus list for now but not enough to be killed so
       Idk
       [/quote]
       >Copies exactly what Kowhai said
       >I really don't like how you've brought up stuff against me, yet
       you just don't seem to be lynching me
       >Like what Kowhai and Huz tried to argue about me trying to
       subtlely get people to lynch Penguin or accuse easily targetable
       players like Shrub/Jerk, I do get the vibe that Huz is just
       trying to get other players to do his dirty work by letting them
       lynch me first, for him to jump back in the lynch against me in
       the end. It doesn't read well that he accused me because I
       wasn't lynching anyone and that it seemed like I was trying to
       throw a subtle lynch against either Shrub/Jerk yet I can argue
       that he is straight up doing the same about me.
       If you are suspicious about me, why won't you lynch me instead?
       What is stopping you from not lynching me? It reads really scum
       to me, and I definitely don't get a good feeling about how
       Kowhai and Huz have been practically repeating each other's
       thoughts without really adding substance.
       > Huz introduces thought against me at #28 --> Kowhai basically
       repeats it at #31
       > Kowhai posts more at #49 --> copies at #50
       Currently don't find Kowhai anywhere near as suspicious as Huz
       but the fact they've just repeated each other doesnt' read good
       to me
       Lynching Huz; a lot more sketch than Jerk after looking back
       FWIW: Penguin posted while I was writing this up
       #Post#: 2198--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXVI: Transformers [DAY 1]
       By: emertxEtaKtiK Date: May 14, 2020, 2:23 pm
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       Also noting
       > Yes I am aware that Kowhai noted that I was trying to get
       other players to start a train against Penguin while Huz felt
       like it was Shrub/Jerk but still, the main idea remains, they
       both accused me for the same reason of me trying to just get
       other players to start lynch trains against [someone else], and
       is this not what Huz is doing against me??
       #Post#: 2199--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXVI: Transformers [DAY 1]
       By: ‎ Date: May 14, 2020, 2:24 pm
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       i will make a one sentence post and kke will reply to it with a
       page long analysis
       tired of being a scapegoat
       you're the one that started targeting what you called an easy
       targetable players so it should be easy for you to see how you
       come off as suspicious from what you've mentioned
       the kowhai huz thing is interesting will keep an eye out
       #Post#: 2200--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXVI: Transformers [DAY 1]
       By: ‎ Date: May 14, 2020, 2:25 pm
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       i do get kke doing damage control vibes though grasping at
       straws
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