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       #Post#: 582--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Day 1)
       By: xX_4vY_5i0nN4cH_Xx Date: April 13, 2020, 4:20 pm
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       Some thoughts I've had on what's happened thus far:
       - The Le_Shrub thing is rather out of character, but not enough
       for me to feel truly susp of him just yet. It's far more
       careless than his behaviour in Tick Tock 2, when he genuinely
       was wolf.
       - Penguin leading the town is a slight bit more susp for me,
       just because that's pretty much always his strategy as a scum.
       That, combined with him seemingly lynching at random, makes me
       rather susp of him, but not quite enough to lynch.
       - Cosmic and Izzy are both being a lot more active than they
       usually are. Not sure what this means, just something to keep an
       eye on.
       - Neither Lena nor Zech have rly done anything to make me feel
       susp. I feel like Zech in particular is giving me a lot less
       heavy scumleans than he did last game for whatever reason.
       Not lynching anyone yet, just sorta collecting my thoughts about
       anything relevant that's happened thus far.
       #Post#: 583--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Day 1)
       By: leia Date: April 13, 2020, 4:26 pm
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       SHIT AVY you're right I mixed up my games
       [quote author=leia link=topic=27.msg570#msg570 date=1586810021]
       [quote author=KitKats link=topic=27.msg538#msg538
       date=1586805689]
       Yeah, like, even though LS was Warden last game who got results,
       you can see that it took him a bit after Day to officially
       reveal so he's def been carful in past games
       [/quote]I'd disagree here- LS always seems quick to claim (see:
       claiming Psycho after he had like 2 votes on him on like day 2
       of tick tock two, warden v quickly last game).
       [/quote]I meant abnormal evening inside not tick tock two here
       oops
       #Post#: 584--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Day 1)
       By: ZechAkari Date: April 13, 2020, 4:27 pm
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       you also mixed up roles
       #Post#: 585--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Day 1)
       By: ‎ Date: April 13, 2020, 4:35 pm
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       I wasn't here for any of the previous games so I can't judge
       anything based on that
       Just looking at what's happened the Penguin lynch on Lena is
       really strange and I hope we get to see Lenas side of it and how
       she tries to clear this situation up
       #Post#: 586--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Day 1)
       By: Penguin022 Date: April 13, 2020, 4:43 pm
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       fuck I should've waited longer, oh well, I'll still post why I
       did this
       Aight, so the entire purpose of my post was to continue generate
       more discussion. I thought lynching lena for seemingly no reason
       and then immediately leaving would get a rise out of people.
       Either people would start lynching lena for no reason (which
       would obviously be very interesting), or people would start to
       lynch me, which would also be very interesting. A lot of other
       factors we can get from me placing this lynch (such as how lena
       reacts as well), a lot to get from this, versus L_S (as much as
       I hate to agree with Cosmic). I chose lena specifically since
       she had specifically only memed beforehand, plus one post which
       was basically "I agree with everyone", so there was an argument
       you could make that she is very slightly leaning towards wolf.
       Notable reads before my post:
       - Colts' opening post was "hi", which was pretty funny based on
       how his last few D1 openings have included a comment that has
       gotten him lynched. He could be specifically trying to not make
       any early comments that get him lynched.
       - In KKE's post where she lynches Zech, she brushes over L_S's
       post and lynches Zech. The lynch vote seems a little bit more of
       an issue with the way Zech plays versus him actually seeming
       suspicious (24). Zech also happens to be a much more obvious and
       easy vote for wolves.
       - After I lynch L_S, KKE immediately switches to lynching L_S as
       well (28/29). She still mentions having an eye on Zech.
       - KKE makes big post just explaining why Zech would claim human
       as a wolf, but isn't going back to lynching Zech (34). This is
       like the 3rd or 4th post of her going hard after Zech.
       - Nickito lightly defends L_S, but in a fairly wishy-washy way,
       and still admits he's suspicious. Possible co-wolves here, but
       Nickito has a tendency to be skeptical so it is in character for
       him. (35)
       - Cosmic does his classic "I don't think we should be focusing
       on this but also Idk, who knows anything, is this even reality,
       life is meaningless" post. Non-readable. (38)
       - Lena backs up the point of everyone (43) and then tells Zech
       he should read before posting (this post is reminiscent of KKE's
       anti-Zech stuff. I'm pretty sure this post was a little
       hypocritical too but that's besides the point).
       - At this point, without any warning, I lynch Lena (49).
       Here are my reads based on the reactions (numbered based on post
       so I don't have to mass quote).
       50. Cosmic ignores my lena lynch completely, and makes some
       comment that I don't really understand about borrower, but
       ultimately isn't important.
       51. Bad post from KKE. KKE says she wants to go back to lynching
       Zech, continuing with the "he's not even trying" stuff, which I
       still don't understand. Like how isn't he trying? It seems way
       more personal of a lynch, as Leia pointed out. She also doesn't
       commit to going back to lynching Zech either, just continues to
       push him with a flimsy argument.  She co-signs the stuff that
       Cosmic and Lena say, which is noteworthy since this isn't the
       second instance of buddying for her and Lena. She also ignores
       my lynch vote on Lena, and instead points out how deceptive of a
       player and how good I am (she is right, thanks). She then
       removes her lynch vote, but does not lynch Zech! Bad bad bad. If
       you suspect Zech, lynch him, don't half and half. Interesting
       that she removes her vote from L_S after I remove mine as she
       joined my L_S lynch immediately too.
       52. Cosmic is actually making a point here, an actual defence of
       L_S. I liked this post.
       53. KKE takes my Lena bait and continues to talk about how you
       shouldn't trust me so quickly, and talking about that game where
       I attacked myself. Feels like progression of her beginning to
       not trust me, not a fan. She also isn't yet doing any actual
       thinking about why I put my lynch vote, and instead is
       immediately using it as reasoning to not trust me.
       54. L_S gives an okay response to the suspicions against him.
       55. I like Cosmic's progression, he seems innocent in this post.
       He likes what KKE is saying but is still actively thinking about
       how I play and seems to know I wouldn't lynch Lena for no
       reason. He doesn't seem to be buddying with KKE either, strong
       townlean for him atm.
       56. More passive aggressive pushes against Zech, from L_S this
       time. L_S also co-signs me and KKE as town leaders, noteworthy
       since that could be read as him saying the town should listen to
       us.
       57. KKE says "don't trust me or anyone" ehhhhhhh why'd you throw
       in the part about you ehhh
       60. KKE jumps to lynching me now lol, for the obv reasons of me
       not having any reasoning for lynching lena. She isn't thinking
       about how she was just saying I put lots of reasoning into
       everything I do, and that's how I usually trick the town. I
       don't see how putting a lynch vote on someone without any
       reasoning is me misleading the town, that would be a terrible
       plan and make no sense. Her progression also still reads phony.
       61. L_S's post is kinda empty here besides pointing out I was a
       town leader in Tick Tock 2.
       62. This post reads total wolf from KKE, she is creating a
       theory without any thought put in. Her theory says I stopped
       lynching L_S so I could bus Lena and possibly confirm myself as
       town, so if L_S gets mislynched I was off the train. This makes
       no sense, I would still have to give reasoning for lynching lena
       if I wanted to do that, and there is no advantage in bussing my
       wolf teammate, especially before we could even determine if the
       L_S train was a strong one, I stopped lynching L_S before L_S
       even showed up. Her point about me not lynching Cosmic is also
       bogus, I explained why I thought wasn't suspicious.
       63. L_S also lynches me, slight wolflean but whatever.
       64. This post made me laugh, and Cosmic seems to continue to be
       thinking about why I do things versus KKE who is jumping to
       conclusions.
       65. Colts lynching me could go either way.
       66/68. Nickito is actually reading through Lena's posts to try
       to figure out why I was lynching lena, something that I don't
       think KKE or Colts or L_S did. He is trying to figure out why I
       placed my lynch and isn't jumping to the conclusion that me
       lynching for no reason makes me a wolf. Anyone who is lynching
       me for that reason must consider that there is no reason for me
       to do that, and if you all think I am constantly leading this
       game, lynching someone without a point is a terrible idea.
       69. ALRIGHT HERE IS A GREAT POST FOLKS. Leia is obviously
       thinking about the game, and realizes that the reasoning for
       lynching me is whack. Her point about nobody following me is a
       good one, the only person who followed me was KKE herself, who
       now might be trying to get rid of me as a threat. She also comes
       to the same conclusion that KKE is wolfy with the weird Zech
       reads and how staccato she's been playing.
       Also worth noting that Lena was active for another 5 minutes
       after I posted my lynch vote and then left. Nice.
       Lynch KitKats.
       You're welcome for making the game fun. :)
       [hr]
       [member=5]Kowhai[/member] Is it 48/24 phases?
       #Post#: 587--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Day 1)
       By: Le_Shrub Date: April 13, 2020, 5:00 pm
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       Hhhhhhhhhh I don't know anymore
       We can at least all agree KKE and Penguin can't both be wolves,
       right?
       #Post#: 588--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Day 1)
       By: lena Date: April 13, 2020, 5:04 pm
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       [quote author=Penguin022 link=topic=27.msg586#msg586
       date=1586814208]
       Also worth noting that Lena was active for another 5 minutes
       after I posted my lynch vote and then left. Nice.
       [/quote]
       well sorry i was at school
       [quote author=Le_Shrub link=topic=27.msg587#msg587
       date=1586815226]
       Hhhhhhhhhh I don't know anymore
       We can at least all agree KKE and Penguin can't both be wolves,
       right?
       [/quote]
       they could easily be wolves bussing each other hardcore to make
       it look like they're not wolves
       #Post#: 589--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Day 1)
       By: Penguin022 Date: April 13, 2020, 5:06 pm
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       [quote author=leia link=topic=27.msg577#msg577 date=1586812178]
       penguin it's been half an hourrr
       [/quote]
       sorry, I wanted to touch on everything :/
       [quote author=xX_4vY_5i0nN4cH_Xx link=topic=27.msg582#msg582
       date=1586812820]
       Some thoughts I've had on what's happened thus far:
       - The Le_Shrub thing is rather out of character, but not enough
       for me to feel truly susp of him just yet. It's far more
       careless than his behaviour in Tick Tock 2, when he genuinely
       was wolf.
       - Penguin leading the town is a slight bit more susp for me,
       just because that's pretty much always his strategy as a scum.
       That, combined with him seemingly lynching at random, makes me
       rather susp of him, but not quite enough to lynch.
       - Cosmic and Izzy are both being a lot more active than they
       usually are. Not sure what this means, just something to keep an
       eye on.
       - Neither Lena nor Zech have rly done anything to make me feel
       susp. I feel like Zech in particular is giving me a lot less
       heavy scumleans than he did last game for whatever reason.
       Not lynching anyone yet, just sorta collecting my thoughts about
       anything relevant that's happened thus far.
       [/quote]
       - Fair enough, but I thought it seemed more like an intentional
       mistake in this game, I don't think it was actually careless
       since he seemed so prepared to say he made the mistake.
       - I still don't like this point since lynching at random is a
       bad strategy and is against the point of me leading the town
       (which I'd also like you to explain how I'm doing). I'd also
       like to point out that KKE's lynches have been much more random
       and sporadic.
       - Interesting point, Cosmic tends to be more active if he has a
       good point or is interested in what is being said to my
       understanding, I think it's the good kind of activity. Not sure
       if KitKats has become that much more active since last game.
       - I agree that Zech scumleans are whack.
       [quote author=lena link=topic=27.msg588#msg588 date=1586815476]
       [quote author=Penguin022 link=topic=27.msg586#msg586
       date=1586814208]
       Also worth noting that Lena was active for another 5 minutes
       after I posted my lynch vote and then left. Nice.
       [/quote]
       well sorry i was at school
       [quote author=Le_Shrub link=topic=27.msg587#msg587
       date=1586815226]
       Hhhhhhhhhh I don't know anymore
       We can at least all agree KKE and Penguin can't both be wolves,
       right?
       [/quote]
       they could easily be wolves bussing each other **** to make it
       look like they're not wolves
       [/quote]
       Fair enough.
       And people have a tendency to think that I like bussing my
       teammates but I still don't think it is a great strategy,
       especially for day 1.
       #Post#: 590--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Day 1)
       By: ‎ Date: April 13, 2020, 5:06 pm
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       Not sure how to feel about this whole thing
       I'll go with lynching kke based on what she's said so far and
       some of her jumps in logic here and there they don't really add
       up and it feels like she's scrambling and took the only
       opportunity she had to pin the target on someone
       #Post#: 591--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Day 1)
       By: lena Date: April 13, 2020, 5:18 pm
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       [quote author=lena link=topic=27.msg588#msg588 date=1586815476]
       [quote author=Penguin022 link=topic=27.msg586#msg586
       date=1586814208]
       Also worth noting that Lena was active for another 5 minutes
       after I posted my lynch vote and then left. Nice.
       [/quote]
       well sorry i was at school
       [quote author=Le_Shrub link=topic=27.msg587#msg587
       date=1586815226]
       Hhhhhhhhhh I don't know anymore
       We can at least all agree KKE and Penguin can't both be wolves,
       right?
       [/quote]
       they could easily be wolves bussing each other **** to make it
       look like they're not wolves
       [/quote]
       The censored word was h a r d c o r e idk why that's censored on
       here
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