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       #Post#: 761--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Night 2)
   DIR By: leia
       Date: April 17, 2020, 9:42 pm
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       aw Cos : (
       --- Quote from: ☆_SuperBoomen_☆ link ---
       >
       > Wait...what? I'm not a wolf...i...damn...i am just a stupid
       and useless human  :'(
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       yikes you did this last game and I was real convinced you were
       human
       #Post#: 762--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Night 2)
   DIR By: Vinnie927
       Date: April 17, 2020, 9:45 pm
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       wow so cosmic didn't die night 1 so he thought it was ok to
       steal my thing and get brutalized? how rude
       #Post#: 763--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Night 2)
   DIR By: ☆_SuperBoomen_☆
       Date: April 17, 2020, 10:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: leia link ---
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       > aw Cos : ( [quote author=☆_SuperBoomen_☆
       link=topic=27.msg759#msg759 date=1587174780]
       > Wait...what? I'm not a wolf...i...damn...i am just a stupid
       and useless human  :'(
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       yikes you did this last game and I was real convinced you were
       human
       [/quote]
       But now i am a innocent human
       #Post#: 764--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Night 2)
   DIR By: Vinnie927
       Date: April 17, 2020, 11:09 pm
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       you really convinced me there
       #Post#: 765--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Night 2)
   DIR By: jnwes
       Date: April 17, 2020, 11:56 pm
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       Hey I'm a sub
       #Post#: 766--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Night 2)
   DIR By: emertxEtaKtiK
       Date: April 17, 2020, 11:59 pm
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       --- Quote from: jnwes link ---
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       > Hey I'm a sub
       >
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       SANDWICH ENERGY!!!
       #Post#: 767--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Night 2)
   DIR By: Vinnie927
       Date: April 18, 2020, 12:30 am
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       wow is that someone posting in the game topic even though
       they're dead?
       edit: that was probably a bit dickish so i'll say as an admin
       who is able to do so i won't delete it and i understand why you
       did it so i don't think that anything else needs to be done
       about it
       #Post#: 768--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Night 2)
   DIR By: hoezzy
       Date: April 18, 2020, 12:45 am
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       I almost hate myself for listening to y'all here.
       #Post#: 770--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Night 2)
   DIR By: Penguin022
       Date: April 18, 2020, 3:14 am
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       --- Quote from: Le_Shrub link ---
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       > Well you can't say I didn't try hard on that one.
       >
       > For the record, the day 1 thing WAS a strategy, HOWEVER I was
       going to use it if I was a blue role as well, so... Yeah.
       >
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       well at least I got one thing right
       gj near the end there, you were starting to actually convince me
       a bit
       --- Quote from: hoezzy link ---
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       > I almost hate myself for listening to y'all here.
       >
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       explain
       lol @boomen
       #Post#: 771--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TWG CXXIII: Desperation (Night 2)
   DIR By: hoezzy
       Date: April 18, 2020, 6:14 am
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       Now that LS is a wolf, we need to look back at his posts to try
       and see who the other wolves could be.
       1. L_S lynches Penguin after KKE lynches him, then lynches KKE
       after Leia "convinces" him. One thing notable is that he pushes
       the idea that Penguin and KKE cannot both be wolves... twice.
       Even though many players point out that Penguin and KKE could
       both be wolves going hard against each other on day one so the
       one coming off alive gains the town's trust.
       --- Quote from: Le_Shrub link ---
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       > Hhhhhhhhhh I don't know anymore
       >
       > We can at least all agree KKE and Penguin can't both be
       wolves, right?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       --- Quote from: Le_Shrub link ---
       >
       > I don't think both KKE and Penguin can be wolves, especially
       not if they're bussing each other so hard on day 1.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not sure how to read this. L_S could be trying to protect
       his wolfy partner Penguin022, but Penguin was the first person
       to Lynch L_S. But then again, sacrificing a wolf to gain the
       town's trust isn't a bad strategy, especially if the said wolf
       was the brutal wolf.
       2. Le_Shrub's scumlean/townlean post:
       --- Quote from: Le_Shrub link ---
       >
       > Right now I'm mildly suspicious of those in the middle
       >
       > -CM definitely knows what he's doing now after a few games, so
       the random appearance and human claiming seemed a bit off to me,
       especially because I feel he should have read through the topic
       before claiming human.
       > - Similar reads on Zech and Boomen, although I feel like their
       claims suit their playstyles more so I'm not too suspicious of
       them.
       > -Lena isn't really contributing much, but this point's already
       been touched upon.
       > - I don't know how to read jerk at the moment, but you could
       argue this is another player that's been quieter and
       non-contributive so far.
       > - Not a real point, but where is Sky? Has he posted yet?
       >
       > I do think this is a situation where we have one loud wolf and
       a couple quieter wolves in the background, or maybe a pair of
       loud wolves. Regardless, the quiet people aren't off the hook
       and I'd like to push them.
       >
       > Because I still think there's a loud player leading them, I'm
       keeping my KKE lynch. I hope she comes on with a defense.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There indeed was a loud player leading them - it was L_S - but
       his reads on the quieter players are essentially all neutral.
       This is particularly interesting in hindsight; and I think we
       statistically have a wolf among these reads. Overall, I agree
       with Penguin022 (who may or may not be a wolf) on how to read
       this:
       --- Quote ---
       > - Le_Shrub (125) answers my question on who he finds most
       suspicious of the quieter players. He was sus of CM, and had
       basically non-reads for Zech, Boomen, Lena and jerk (that's a
       lot). Interesting to note bc if L_S is wolf, we can take this
       two ways. He could have not that many "quiet" players on his
       team, or one of the players he didn't have much of a read on
       could be a wolf buddy as well.
       --- End Quote ---
       In case it is the latter, jerk seems to have some case against
       them.
       3. I don't know what to make out of the fact that L_S lynches
       Colts here; as I'm not familiar with Colts and since he hasn't
       been much contributive I can't get a read on them.
       4. Let's talk about the people who lynched or lynch L_S:
       -Leia lynched L_S and is pretty much confirmed to be town at
       this point.
       -Jerk's lynch of L_S is in a very agreeable tone.
       -Avy gets TOWNLEANS??? from Shrub?
       -Avy pushes on the Nickito lynch instead based on activity
       reasons - I find this interesting considering there is more of a
       case against many other non-L_S characters and Avy doesn't deal
       with them in any significant way. I'm also finding this
       interesting since Avy has been about as uncontributive, if not
       more, than Nickito, so their line of reasoning against Nickito
       is very weird. Also KKE caught them lurking without posting...
       Strong scumlean for Avy.
       -Penguin didnt lynch L_S, but since he was suspicious of him and
       lynched him D1 I don't think he's the guy to go after. Slight
       townlean from him for now, but keep an eye on him.
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