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Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 1]
DIR By: emertxEtaKtiK
Date: April 8, 2020, 6:19 pm
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Honestly, I think a lot of people have been not realizing or at
least not acknowledging the fact that we have SIX humans total
but still only FOUR claims.
CF18 has not been a claimer so far. I just find it rather odd
that some non-claimers like Leia/Vinnie are automatically trying
to come to the assumption that Zech is giving off Fool/Scummy
vibes when there is still room to claim Human.
At this point, the biggest contention is over Zech/Colts, but so
far Zech has claimed, and it looks like there are atl 2 (2 if
the 4 hum claims are telling the truth) people who have just not
claimed Human yet. I know some people might have the strategy to
wait and see how other human claimers act before they claim to
try to potentially lure any evil roles into claiming Human, but
at this point, regardless of why people might not be claiming
human...
I still find it odd that CF18 has yet to claim.
Personally, my thought process is that I just don't think he is
Human because if he was a Human, his dominant interest should be
to just claim Human the instant he is getting accused/questioned
if he hadn't already, since the longer you hold a Human claim,
the more suspicious you can appear unless you REALLY have
something good to back up why you didn't claim. Honestly, it's
rather odd that he hadn't really spent too much thought
defending his actions or words either.
[yikes like 3 posts were made while I was typing]
#Post#: 226--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 1]
DIR By: emertxEtaKtiK
Date: April 8, 2020, 6:20 pm
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[also just realized Avy jumped in on the Fool/Maniac assumption
after I made my post bc their post was made while I was typing
too]
#Post#: 227--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 1]
DIR By: emertxEtaKtiK
Date: April 8, 2020, 6:23 pm
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sorry, another thing to insert
CF18 gives me more Indie/F and M/Potential Wolf vibes than
anyone else for all of what I've mentioned above
#Post#: 228--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 1]
DIR By: leia
Date: April 8, 2020, 6:26 pm
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--- Quote from: ! !22-22-7 link ---
>
> I remembered Colts being killed in your game bc Nick thought
he was a wolf, and I didn't follow Zech's game but afaik he was
able to be confirmed.
>
> I can't say I like the idea of a fool/maniac but unfortunately
I am forced to accept its reality. I want to hear more from Zech
first before removing my vote, seeing how he reacts to this
idea.
>
--- End Quote ---
I just checked my PMs- "wait sorry I want a bandwagoning town
Kill Ziggly Boom Boom"
--- Quote from: emertxEtaKtiK link ---
>
> I just find it rather odd that some non-claimers like
Leia/Vinnie are automatically trying to come to the assumption
that Zech is giving off Fool/Scummy vibes when there is still
room to claim Human.
>
--- End Quote ---
Why is this strange?
Also to your point about humans- when there are only 3 power
roles, it can be helpful not to claim human so that said power
roles have a little more coverage. If only scum/humans claimed
human, then the wolves would know exactly who to target at
night. It's dangerous.
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Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 1]
DIR By: leia
Date: April 8, 2020, 6:30 pm
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Also I just reread it, and what is automatic about it? Neither
of us originally came to that conclusion after looking at his
behavior. I thought Avy made a good point so I wanted to affirm
it because it is possibly a good explanation for dodgy behavior
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Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 1]
DIR By: emertxEtaKtiK
Date: April 8, 2020, 6:35 pm
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--- Quote from: leia link ---
>
> Why is this strange?
>
--- End Quote ---
@everything I said regarding the whole thing with the fact that
there hasn't been many Human Claims, but reading what you said
below, it does make more sense why people wouldn't claim Human.
--- Quote from: leia link ---
>
> Also to your point about humans- when there are only 3 power
roles, it can be helpful not to claim human so that said power
roles have a little more coverage. If only scum/humans claimed
human, then the wolves would know exactly who to target at
night. It's dangerous.
>
--- End Quote ---
Okay good point to bring up here. I genuinely didn't think of
this.
--- Quote from: leia link ---
>
> Also I just reread it, and what is automatic about it? Neither
of us originally came to that conclusion after looking at his
behavior. I thought Avy made a good point so I wanted to affirm
it because it is possibly a good explanation for dodgy behavior
>
--- End Quote ---
I am just kinda relying more on statistical chances and that
fact that Zech's playing behavior might be justified through
lack of experience and general recklessness (seen a lot in less
experienced behaviors) in my opinion.
#Post#: 231--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 1]
DIR By: Kowhai
Date: April 8, 2020, 6:55 pm
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not gonna lynch any human claim until we have excess
colts could just be playing normally, idk his gameplay that
well, but the bottom line is he's sticking out like a sore thumb
here, and no one else is coming across as sus. if he's an
important role I expect him to claim. lynch colts
#Post#: 232--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 1]
DIR By: Cosmic
Date: April 8, 2020, 6:59 pm
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--- Quote from: leia link ---
>
> Yeah I'll lynch ColtsFan
>
> Colts, can you point to specific posts where Ziggy's behavior
has been weird? It's clearly not a vibe thing because you
literally said "Zech has been acting weird", so there must be
things that he posted that have lead you to believe it.
>
> to what other people (mainly Vinnie everyone else seems to be
bringing up similar points) have been saying:
> - Cosmic has generally been "blending in" the last few games
anyway though, and afair he hasn't been scum. He just kinda
lurks and is generally reluctant to lynch. Not saying he isn't
scum right now, but just significant to note because as you
said, you are a dirty metagamer
> - ColtsFan hasn't really been suspected in the last two games
because he hasn't been suspicious. Back to Basics, however, he
got lynched on the first day because he was being sketchy. Maybe
I'm missing something, but can you point to him being suspected
by a large portion of players when he wasn't scum?
>
> - also @Avy I could take a Zech being fool/maniac, it would
make sense given the dodgy behavior
>
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Bang on, if I was interested in leading the town I'd have tried
it by now, scum or not.
Will be refraining for now, will give mild reads tomorrow I
guess, its 1am, apologies
#Post#: 233--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 1]
DIR By: ☆_SuperBoomen_☆
Date: April 8, 2020, 7:07 pm
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Uh..it's hard to keep up with everything that's going on, can
someone give me a summary? The way this forum is organized makes
me confused, I got used to the flipline forum
#Post#: 234--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 1]
DIR By: leia
Date: April 8, 2020, 7:23 pm
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--- Quote from: emertxEtaKtiK link ---
>
> I am just kinda relying more on statistical chances and that
fact that Zech's playing behavior might be justified through
lack of experience and general recklessness (seen a lot in less
experienced behaviors) in my opinion.
>
--- End Quote ---
I wouldn't call Zech inexperienced, but good to know what you're
thinking
--- Quote from: ☆_SuperBoomen_☆ link ---
>
> Uh..it's hard to keep up with everything that's going on, can
someone give me a summary? The way this forum is organized makes
me confused, I got used to the flipline forum
>
--- End Quote ---
dude same everything is so long on this forum it's hard on the
eyes.
In short, people have started to lynch Colts and feelings have
been thrown out regarding Zech- anything else I say is gonna be
biased you should really just read it yourself to get a good
sense of the game.
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