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#Post#: 290--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 2]
DIR By: Le_Shrub
Date: April 10, 2020, 2:10 pm
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I would like the jailkeeper to not die, so I'm not revealing who
the two visits were for now.
#Post#: 291--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 2]
DIR By: Le_Shrub
Date: April 10, 2020, 2:19 pm
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Now...
Yesterday five people did not end up lynching Colts.
Jess, Avy, Cosmic, Lena, and Boomen (three human claims and two
non-claimers).
Lena in particular was hesitant on the lynch and said in the
shoutbox that she "didn't want Colts to end up like Mercury"
from last game, which is fair I suppose.
Since we don't have an abundance of human claims, as KKE said
earlier, they should be fairly safe for now, I think. I'd like
to hear from Lena and Boomen in particular, but I mean all these
five would be nice.
#Post#: 292--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 2]
DIR By: emertxEtaKtiK
Date: April 10, 2020, 2:20 pm
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i found it a bit odd that Nickito was just not really present
(didn't even lynch) on Day 1 or really participate in any
meaningful discussion. This seems really suspicious to me,
considering he's been a very experienced player and probably
usually had the same mindset Vinnie had with pushing a lot of
players for discussion. (I am not sure if the latter is right,
but it seems like it would be)
#Post#: 293--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 2]
DIR By: emertxEtaKtiK
Date: April 10, 2020, 2:21 pm
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--- Quote from: Le_Shrub link ---
>
> Now...
>
> Yesterday five people did not end up lynching Colts.
> Jess, Avy, Cosmic, Lena, and Boomen (three human claims and
two non-claimers).
> Lena in particular was hesitant on the lynch and said in the
shoutbox that she "didn't want Colts to end up like Mercury"
from last game, which is fair I suppose.
>
> Since we don't have an abundance of human claims, as KKE said
earlier, they should be fairly safe for now, I think. I'd like
to hear from Lena and Boomen in particular, but I mean all these
five would be nice.
>
--- End Quote ---
Lynch Boomen for now
#Post#: 294--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 1]
DIR By: leia
Date: April 10, 2020, 2:24 pm
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Ok interesting timing in your warden reveal
I'm generally ok with Boomen for now, I think his behavior is
just inexperienced town and also I really don't like the
physical graphics on this forum, they make it harder to follow
posts.
I do think Jess and Lena are worth hearing from- Jess mainly
because she did a really good job masking as human last game and
I wanna be cautious. Lena because this:
--- Quote from: lena link ---
>
> Okay, thanks. I'm less dubious going into this lynch now
>
> (Yeah, you answered my questions and it makes sense)
>
--- End Quote ---
Why didn't you lynch Colts after this?
KKE's point about Nick is also worth exploring I think- I
remember him being more firey than this? He seems subdued.
Also worth it to look at others who did lynch- see who offered
anything new, see who just kinda hopped on. I'll do that later
rn it's time for today's family walk
#Post#: 295--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 2]
DIR By: emertxEtaKtiK
Date: April 10, 2020, 2:48 pm
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--- Quote from: Nickito link ---
>
> I mean there are 6 Humans which is a lot so we'll see lots of
Human claims possibly
>
> but last game we see what happens when everyone claims so
let's not do that :)
>
--- End Quote ---
This post here gives me a slight vibe that this is an indirect
way to claim human. I feel like he is trying to subtlety claim
human here (I just wanted to bring this up because his Day 1
activity has already been kinda unusual to me and Leia)
Regarding Vinnie: Okay a lot of his earliest posts were all
targeted and *pinpointed* towards ZechAkari. I would like to try
to find out why they brutalized Vinnie of all people. Can
someone help me out here since I have not played and cannot
access the forum to see anything, but is vinnie acting different
here? (like the sudden random accusation and direct lynch) or
just Vinnie being Vinnie? I want to think if he could have been
Fool. He was veryyy pressed on lynching Zech with like
absolutely no information, when he could have just tried to push
for more words out of Zech without lynching him immediately.
Regardless, it seems like the wolves did not like his reckless
behavior in targeting the less active who aren't prone to post
as often --> Thinking about SuperBoomen here specifically who
kinda freaked about being subbed as inactive when he could just
simply make posts during the day.
--- Quote from: leia link ---
>
> ...So! Lynch Nick because you didn't answer my question from a
while back
>
--- End Quote ---
Leia initially tried to lynch Nick here which can be a potential
lead, as Leia got attacked lol, but I mean, it seems like Nick
interpreted Leia's post before as a rhetorical question but
still...something useful to bring up considering I pointed out
Nick's inactivty
--- Quote from: ZechAkari link ---
>
> I find ColtsFan vaguely sus for suspecting us when all we did
was claim human when not enough people have claimed human. It
made no sense because it felt like I was expected to do
something in the first 10 or so posts, which were human claims,
and talking about how the game started at 2AM.
>
--- End Quote ---
This post makes Zech a bit less suspicious since he was the
first person to directly kind of state that CF was suspicious.
(I tried to push more out of CF18 earlier which led to him
answering suspiciously about Avy)
--- Quote from: Nickito link ---
>
> on the one hand I don't like lynching human claims but on the
other hand I don't like lynching no one
>
> I just don't see how treating someone as town-leaning after
one post makes sense so I'll place a tentative lynch vote on
ColtsFan18, very very open to other suggestions though
>
--- End Quote ---
Okay, with all the info about Nick so far...I am lowkey just
getting that vibe you know? Like if you are a wolf, you know for
sure who ain't a wolf, and it just...the whole "tentative" thing
seemed very off. Like, why didn't you just try to initiate or
engage with CF18 more? Why did you place a tentative vote
instead?
You know you could have just tried to push more out of CF18 and
added to more discussion right before even placing a lynch...
Like for me personally, I kind of see tentative votes as like an
excuse to be cleared if you know that someone is bad. Like i've
seen it a lot in TOS and even played like this before (placing
tentative votes on people ik who are bad if i am mafia/wolf and
trying to use it as a way to justify myself as non-suspicious
because of my tentative accusation)
#Post#: 296--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 2]
DIR By: Nickito
Date: April 10, 2020, 3:12 pm
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what do you mean I'm inactive and didn't vote Day 1
I was one of the first people to vote for Colts I think, and I
was one of the more active players
and obviously I would not kill the only person who suspected me
that's like TWG 101
also
--- Quote from: leia link ---
>
> KKE's point about Nick is also worth exploring I think- I
remember him being more firey than this? He seems subdued.
>
--- End Quote ---
what does this even mean? I've been busy with school lately so
I'm not posting multiple times an hour if that's what you mean
#Post#: 297--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 2]
DIR By: leia
Date: April 10, 2020, 3:44 pm
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@KKE I didn't really suspect Nick when I voted him, it was just
a discussion generating vote
I also wanna point out that you did a similar thing to Nick -
you said you'd "come back to it later" after you voted Colts,
which imo isn't unlike Nick's tentativeness.
@Nick
Like, you're usually much more firey. You and Vinnie had that
page and a half argument in tick tock two, in Abnormal your
posts were opinionated and generally decisive. You had much more
of a presence compared to now (see KKE's post for examples). You
can chalk it up to being inactive all you want, but a lack of
presence is usually something I can chalk up to being
blending-in behavior.
Yes, you were one of the first to vote Colts- but, as KKE said,
you gave yourself an easy way out by saying it was tentative--
and it wasn't like original! and new! and a groundbreaking
lynch! Many others (see Lena KKE me Zech and also vinnie did
some questioning but not really) had already begun to push Colts
for more information.
Imma lynch Nick and see where this goes
#Post#: 298--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 1]
DIR By: lena
Date: April 10, 2020, 3:53 pm
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@KKE Colts brutalizing Vinnie makes sense, as someone who's
played with him as wolf in the past he just picks who annoys him
or aggressive-seeming town players to brutalize
--- Quote from: leia link ---
>
> Why didn't you lynch Colts after this?
>
--- End Quote ---
not gonna lie, I forgot
#Post#: 300--------------------------------------------------
Re: TWG CXXII: The Jailkeeper [Day 2]
DIR By: emertxEtaKtiK
Date: April 10, 2020, 4:49 pm
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As of right now, I am keeping my lynch on SuperBoomen.
--
I would like to hear more from Kowhai too if that is possible.
Haven't found anything scum-leaning from her for now (but also
realize Independents exist), but she's been more quiet, but
honestly think her timezone affects things too.
--
--- Quote from: leia link ---
>
> @KKE I didn't really suspect Nick when I voted him, it was
just a discussion generating vote
>
> I also wanna point out that you did a similar thing to Nick -
you said you'd "come back to it later" after you voted Colts,
which imo isn't unlike Nick's tentativeness.
>
--- End Quote ---
Yeah, it was more because there was a lot of discussion done
upon ZechAkari (plus people were already starting to vote) by
then so I kinda wanted to wait to see which one was the better
option in case more posts came up, but I ended up sticking with
CF18. I felt like when Nick made the most, there was less
discussion in general and it was a lot earlier and not too many
people lynched.
--
My bad Nick. I missed your tentative vote upon CF18. It just
threw me off cuz it was tentative, but still, the other points
hold.
--
In Lena's defense, I feel like she genuinely could have
forgotten because of the other game going on where she is host.
Like NGL, Murder Mystery is pretttyyyy distracting and it's not
hard to forget about other things while you are the host
especially... Although some of Lena's posts were kind of weird,
I don't see anything super off about her compared to other
players like Nick. She tried to bring up her own thoughts, and
even if some of them weren't right, I would like to note that
she still tried to come up with her own thoughts without really
repeating thoughts previously thrown, but then eventually
realized the points against CF18 made sense and just genuinely
forgot to vote because of her hosting the other game.
--
I also want to note that it is also possible for the jailed
target to be a Wolf and lie that they are attacked in jail. Not
trying to say this is the case about Leia for a fact, but I am
just noting it as a possibility that we shouldn't automatically
dismiss since Leia is an experienced player nonetheless. It also
seems like a decent strategy for a wolf to perform, because
Jailor doesn't know if their target was attacked or not in Jail.
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