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       #Post#: 5013--------------------------------------------------
       I want to win against some tau... actually... 
   DIR By: Old Man Sanders
       Date: May 29, 2016, 5:51 am
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       ... Actually I don't want to win, I want to conquer. I want to
       see their armies smote before my men, their weapons, soldiers
       and tanks turned to naught but ash. I want to take their greater
       good, build it into a nice conical structure, set it ablaze and
       then throw them on it. I want to crush them flawlessly. I want
       to win, GLORIOUSLY.
       Basically I want to win against some tau in an apocalypse battle
       with my guard. Any tips and tricks?
       #Post#: 5014--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I want to win against some tau... actually... 
   DIR By: senera2000
       Date: May 29, 2016, 6:05 am
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       Baneblades? Melee units(Tau suck at CQC
       right?)?..............??? Make sure you have a lot of cover.
       Prayers to the Emperor.
       Loaded dice? Hacks and cheats?
       #Post#: 5019--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I want to win against some tau... actually... 
   DIR By: Old Man Sanders
       Date: May 29, 2016, 6:42 am
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       I have creed (and therefore tactical genius hurr)... so that
       should help get some cc units up close... maybe a hellhound or
       something with flamers?
       I do have a bane blade, but I wonder whether I should use it as
       a distraction carnifex? The only problem is that the tau may be
       able to take it out in 1 or 2 rounds... meaning it'd have been
       pretty useless. Then again, drawing fire from tau and allowing
       CC units to get up is a good use.
       I have 2 valkries and kasrkin, so I can grav chute those guys
       onto the tau to fuck them up nicely...
       #Post#: 5020--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I want to win against some tau... actually... 
   DIR By: Apothecary Meros
       Date: May 29, 2016, 7:11 am
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       The problem you have is that both armies are a very much 'hold
       the line' style force. The real problems you'll find is
       battlesuits with skyfire shooting down your Valkyries, tanks and
       battlesuits blowing up advancing tanks, tanks and battlesuits
       blowing up tanks that aren't advancing since they will almost
       always out range and out gun you, and generally being unable to
       breach their impenetrable fortress.
       I'd stick with the storm troopers deepstriking - maybe stick
       some Ogryns in a Valkyrie too - but for your guardsmen holding
       the line I'd take as many sniper rifles as possible. If you can
       successfully pin those Tau, that'll be less markerlights
       ignoring your cover saves and just less shots blasting your flak
       armour to smithereens.
       Also, Thudd Guns. Those things are glorious.
       #Post#: 5024--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I want to win against some tau... actually... 
   DIR By: Old Man Sanders
       Date: May 29, 2016, 7:45 am
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       So basically, both armies should be even but I'll loose because
       marker lights are OP. Hmm. Great.
       Well I do have another army on my side, of SM's.
       #Post#: 5025--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I want to win against some tau... actually... 
   DIR By: Apothecary Meros
       Date: May 29, 2016, 8:27 am
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       --- Quote from: Old Man Sanders link ---
       >
       > So basically, both armies should be even but I'll loose
       because marker lights are OP. Hmm. Great.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That's pretty much how it works. Although most of their weapons
       are far, far more powerful than anything the Imperial Guard has.
       What does your space marine army consist of, may I ask?
       #Post#: 5028--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I want to win against some tau... actually... 
   DIR By: Old Man Sanders
       Date: May 29, 2016, 9:34 am
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       It's another guys, he's rich as fuck and it's apocalypse... so
       pretty much a few of everything.
       #Post#: 5030--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I want to win against some tau... actually... 
   DIR By: The Big Boy
       Date: May 29, 2016, 9:36 am
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       Baneblades kind of suck in higher point matches, Imperial
       Knights take the same lord of War slot and have similar cost
       (both money and points) while killing like 3x as much stuff in a
       single game, plus there shields give good durability against the
       blue fishmen. However, Guard are still in 6th ed and like I have
       said before are a pretty shit army. Bes you can d is hope t
       Emperor protects. I will also recommend formations (the new
       Cadian ones are nice) and taking 50 conscripts + priest and
       giving orders, it's the closest thing to cheese the Guard get.
       #Post#: 5032--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I want to win against some tau... actually... 
   DIR By: Old Man Sanders
       Date: May 29, 2016, 9:39 am
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       --- Quote from: The Big Boy link ---
       >
       > Baneblades kind of suck in higher point matches, Imperial
       Knights take the same lord of War slot and have similar cost
       (both money and points) while killing like 3x as much stuff in a
       single game, plus there shields give good durability against the
       blue fishmen. However, Guard are still in 6th ed and like I have
       said before are a pretty shit army. Bes you can d is hope t
       Emperor protects. I will also recommend formations (the new
       Cadian ones are nice) and taking 50 conscripts + priest and
       giving orders, it's the closest thing to cheese the Guard get.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       --- Quote from: The Big Boy link ---
       >
       > Guard are still in 6th ed and like I have said before are a
       pretty shit army.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       --- Quote from: The Big Boy link ---
       >
       > However, Guard are still in 6th ed and like I have said before
       are a pretty shit army.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       GET. THE FUCK. OUT. HERETIC.
       #Post#: 5033--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I want to win against some tau... actually... 
   DIR By: Old Man Sanders
       Date: May 29, 2016, 9:40 am
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       I'm gonna win that fucking match just to prove to you that guard
       are the singular BEST army in warhammer 40,000. And I will do it
       FOR THE EMPEROR.
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