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New Poll--Ventures vs. Shadows
By: wstagner Date: July 11, 2012, 2:47 pm
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Please take part in our fun little poll. Results will be
intresting.
Today, July 14th, we added a question AND allowed you to change
your vote.
So, if you've already voted, you might want to check how you
voted and optionally change your vote.
Happy voting!
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Re: New Poll--Ventures vs. Shadows
By: arnoldvb Date: July 11, 2012, 3:49 pm
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Although I voted "few people heard of them compared to The
Shadows," I also think the fact that they never toured the UK
was also a big factor.
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Re: New Poll--Ventures vs. Shadows
By: wstagner Date: July 11, 2012, 3:52 pm
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Why do you think they didn't tour there?
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Re: New Poll--Ventures vs. Shadows
By: arnoldvb Date: July 12, 2012, 9:21 pm
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Have no idea, Walt.
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Re: New Poll--Ventures vs. Shadows
By: wstagner Date: July 12, 2012, 9:48 pm
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I think it was similar to why the Shadows didn't toor the US.
Their records were not readily available in the USA so there was
no reason to tour here. Kind of a catch 22 situation. The
Beatles were popular in the UK 3 years before we'd even heard of
them here. It was likely their record company that got things
going for them here. I doubt Dolton/Liberty records had the
resources let alone the European distribution.
But, I'm just guessing.
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Re: New Poll--Ventures vs. Shadows
By: tabalt11 Date: July 14, 2012, 8:19 am
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Clever poll idea Walt.
For me #'s 2 & 3 are definetly out. Leaning
more to # 4 than anything else but be aware
I got a good chuckle out of a couple of the choices.
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Re: New Poll--Ventures vs. Shadows
By: Toogplaast Date: July 14, 2012, 4:12 pm
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Walt - Cliff & The Shads did a small US tour in the early 60's
(1960 I think). I'm still surprised that The Shads and Cliff
were not popular in the US after that with their unique sound.
The Tornados managed it with Telstar, but never able to tour
there because of a dispute regarding the singer they were
backing at the time called Billy Fury. I was not alive in the
60's but I know that there were UK issues of most of The
Ventures records so it should not have been a problem acquiring
their records back then.
Malcolm.
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Re: New Poll--Ventures vs. Shadows
By: wstagner Date: July 14, 2012, 4:25 pm
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Ok, so what's your take on their lack of UK/Europe popularity
back then?
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Re: New Poll--Ventures vs. Shadows
By: Toogplaast Date: July 14, 2012, 4:56 pm
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I would say that it was probably because of the popularity of
The Shadows - even before Apache they were popular and well
known, etc. as well as their success starting with Cliff in
1958. Also The John Barry 7 had the big hit with WDR which
masked the Ventures version.
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Re: New Poll--Ventures vs. Shadows
By: wstagner Date: July 14, 2012, 5:21 pm
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Kinda like this guy "killin' it" for the Shads stateside:
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMgRQRUbOLw
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMgRQRUbOLw
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