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       The Ventures and the Shadows, perhaps a difference?
       By: wstagner Date: March 28, 2012, 8:40 am
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       Andy (Abstamaria) has swerved into an intresting topic and
       started a thread over here
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       on the
       topic.  Thanks to Andy for doing this.  I think this helps
       spread awareness for The Ventures and The Shadows.
       Thanks again, Andy.
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       Re: The Ventures and the Shadows, perhaps a difference?
       By: Noel Date: September 16, 2012, 10:32 am
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       This thread from SG101 includes some terrific Shadows tunes
       played by Ivan Pongracic of The Madeira and his dad in their
       Shadows band, The Troubadours. Ivan's dad started playing
       Shadows music in Croatia right after The Shadows started. The
       Troubadours have a very rich sound and various comments discuss
       how they get it. I hope you enjoy their music. It includes
       Apache, Sleepwalk and FBI, among others. As The Ventures also
       played many of these tunes, here's another take on the sound.
       Ivan here explains how he gets the lush lead sound. "Just a
       Yamaha Magicstomp box programmed with Echoes from the Past
       patches by Charlie Hall in the UK. Direct into the AC-30 from
       there." Now that is something worth trying.
  HTML http://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/19469/?page=1#p254438
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       Re: The Ventures and the Shadows, perhaps a difference?
       By: wstagner Date: March 25, 2013, 10:03 pm
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       And, the "beat goes on" over on the Shads forum 3/25/2013:
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       FOTV members are a pretty "fair-minded" buncha blokes, ain't we?
       ;D
       #Post#: 1774--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Ventures and the Shadows, perhaps a difference?
       By: cockroach Date: March 26, 2013, 5:30 am
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       You folks certainly are Walt!
       I'll say no more, as I post on both sites... :(
       #Post#: 1775--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Ventures and the Shadows, perhaps a difference?
       By: wstagner Date: March 26, 2013, 7:53 am
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       I lurk and post in both places as well.
       We have a few cross posters from the Shads site too.
       One of my personal faves is Phil McGarrick, an outstanding
       geetar player and videographer of Smania for the past few years.
       #Post#: 1776--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Ventures and the Shadows, perhaps a difference?
       By: Snarnok Date: March 26, 2013, 10:51 am
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       When some Shadow fans (not all) say they don't like the Ventures
       after only listening to a small amount of their music, it does
       not seem fair to judge The Ventures. As we know the Ventures
       have been going for over 50 years and they have had different
       eras with different styles and sounds. I've burnt cd's for
       friends to see what they think of The Ventures, and I always put
       on a selection of all the different eras. I think if more Shadow
       fans listened to the Pops in Japan period they might show more
       of an interest as well as Mel Taylor's fantastic solo albums.
       It would be different for someone like Duane Eddy who has had
       the same sound and style since 1957/58.
       Malcolm.
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       Re: The Ventures and the Shadows, perhaps a difference?
       By: wstagner Date: March 26, 2013, 11:23 am
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       Both groups have evolved, which is the natural course of things.
       Dunno how Duane has survived playing exactly the same way he
       always has.
       He's a much better geetar player than his recordings show.
       No reason he coon't have performed some toons like this in his
       live shows:
  HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8w0B0QCLXg
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       #Post#: 1783--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Ventures and the Shadows, perhaps a difference?
       By: Snarnok Date: March 26, 2013, 11:44 am
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       I was aware that Duane is a great fingerstyle guitarist and all
       round musician. I've got most of his recordings and there are a
       few exceptions such as Desert rat. There are also some fantastic
       steel guitar, organ and other solos on his recordings that help
       add some variety to them.
       Here is an interesting DE forum with some rare pictures and
       annecdotes:
  HTML http://gretschpages.com/forum/duane-eddy/
       Malcolm.
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       Re: The Ventures and the Shadows, perhaps a difference?
       By: wstagner Date: March 26, 2013, 12:46 pm
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       Thanks 4 postin.  I 2 thinkits a shame there are no recent
       commerically produced DVD of a Duane concert.
       But, if he's satisfy with his career, so be it!
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