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Rare Instrumental Music From the Dawn of Surf
By: Noel Date: February 28, 2012, 8:05 am
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Here are two links. It took me a minute to fix the link so it
showed the whole list instead of just the first tune.
The first is to a topic on SG101 were members can post clips of
rare records. Almost all of them are on YouTube.
HTML http://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/17445/?page=1
HTML http://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/17445/?page=1
The second link is to the YouTube Playlist for those.
HTML http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCEB21A24BE6445FF
An amazing collection of rare and mostly forgotten music by some
great bands.
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Re: Rare Instrumental Music From the Dawn of Surf
By: wstagner Date: February 28, 2012, 8:30 am
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Thanks for posting these, Noel. I'm not a big fan of the surf
genre and I've never understood why the Ventures were tagged as
such. They had ONE LP devoted to surf music. Of the toons
posted El Gato was intresting B cawse it sounds very much like
Endless Dream from Super Psy album. Now I know where they got
their idea for the toon frum.
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Re: Rare Instrumental Music From the Dawn of Surf
By: wschart Date: February 28, 2012, 1:20 pm
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It is quite true that the Ventures are not a surf band, however
I (and perhaps others) that they laid a solid foundation for
instro surf music. Prior to the Ventures, most r'n'r instro
music featured, at least in part, the sax as a if not the lead
instrument, and also typically featured a piano as part of the
rhythm section. The Ventures did a lot to establish the the
lead, rhythm, and bass guitar plus drums quartet as a valid
combo. Surf groups often cover Ventures material.
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Re: Rare Instrumental Music From the Dawn of Surf
By: Noel Date: February 28, 2012, 2:06 pm
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I agree that the Ventures changed the makeup of the instrumental
combo. And, because of how well they marketed their music, most
people still think they wrote early surf music. Who do most
people think wrote Telstar, or Pipeline, or Wipeout, or Walk,
Don't Run? The Ventures played better, recorded better and more
professionally, marketed better and toured agressively. Rather
than sink or disappear with dropping surf/instro singles sales
after the British invasion, or abandon instrumental music and
become a vocal pop band like the rest, they dug in and recorded
some of the best and best-selling instrumental concept albums
ever, and they made their albums top sellers without number one
hit singles.
Sometimes it doesn't matter what you call yourself; the audience
classifies you. After all, this is how surf music got its name,
and it's how the music of Dick Dale and the Del Tones, the
Belairs, the Chantays and the other pioneers of surf music
acquired the label, "surf music." I think it was simply applied
to The Ventures after the fact because that's also how they
sounded. It didn't happen to Link Wray or Duane Eddie.
I also think Don Wilson might have acknowledged something like
this when he named his signature amp the Surf Reverb, not the
Instrumental Reverb.
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Re: Rare Instrumental Music From the Dawn of Surf
By: Noel Date: February 28, 2012, 2:13 pm
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I might have already linked this, but here is something written
by Paul Johnson of the Belairs about the origins of surf music
and how it got its name. Among the important things he writes is
that he and his friends were trying to play like their guitar
instrumetal heroes of the day, like, among others, The Ventures.
So the way The Ventures sounded became part of the way surf
music sounded after it got its name.
The Origins of Surf Music — a first-hand account by Paul Johnson
HTML http://surfguitar101.com/news/story/724/
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Re: Rare Instrumental Music From the Dawn of Surf
By: Noel Date: February 28, 2012, 2:19 pm
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Almost as if it's to prove the point, this clip is from a
documantary about surf music. Guess who they're all trying to
sound like? If you say, Don Wilson, you're right. He didn't do
it first, but it's his glissando that everyone still tries to
copy. Except Dick Dale. His is totally different.
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znTIw5WKaVg&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znTIw5WKaVg&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active
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Re: Rare Instrumental Music From the Dawn of Surf
By: wstagner Date: February 28, 2012, 5:09 pm
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I do think the V wer pigeonholed as a surfband and that killed
them stateside. Oh, I also believe that Dick Clark hadit in for
them. They were on Bandstand once.
If wasn't for Japan it wood have bin over 4 the V stateside
after Hawaii 50 ended.
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Re: Rare Instrumental Music From the Dawn of Surf
By: Noel Date: February 29, 2012, 12:44 pm
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Being thought of as a surf band after surf dropped off the radar
didn't help. The arrival of vocal groups as the dominant force
in pop music spelled the end of many types of musical acts, not
only instrumentals. Wasn't the last jazz standard to be a big
hit Hello Dolly by Louis Armstrong? Then about 2 years later
Sinatra had the last pop standard to make No 1 with Strangers in
the Night. Wasn't that 1967? I think I have the years close
enough. After that instrumental groups were in the same
situation. Except rarely, their singles didn't get radio and
they didn't chart very well. One or two exceptions a year.
Sergio Mendez had a run, Herb Alpert had some hits, there was
Classical Gas and Dueling Banjos. Maybe some others, but these
are are all that come to mind right now.
The odd thing is that no one noticed that instrumental music was
still very influencial among aspiring musicians and was
spreading around the world.
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Re: Rare Instrumental Music From the Dawn of Surf
By: wstagner Date: February 29, 2012, 1:34 pm
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Not to mention the Grammies took a dump on instro
music....giving the awards off-camra because the artists were
boring.
Hmmm, what would most vocalist due w/o the instro backing? Acca
Pella? ::)
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Re: Rare Instrumental Music From the Dawn of Surf
By: cockroach Date: March 1, 2012, 8:41 am
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Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac had a number one with Albatross in
1969...
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