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       Re: Strings for that very early sound
       By: wstagner Date: February 12, 2012, 7:55 am
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       We get a nice Hanky sound with a $150 Line 6 Echo Park pedal.
       It's all about HOW you adjust it. ;)
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       Re: Strings for that very early sound
       By: cockroach Date: February 13, 2012, 5:15 am
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       That's true Walt, but don't say that on the Shads forum- they
       will chew you up! ::)
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       Re: Strings for that very early sound
       By: wstagner Date: February 13, 2012, 7:36 am
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       Bin there, dun that. ;)
       I think the playing has something to do w/that as well.
       Very few (if any) discussions about the bass PLAYING techniques
       that have been used with Shads music.
       It's almost always about the people and the fond memories.
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       Re: Strings for that very early sound
       By: Noel Date: February 13, 2012, 7:50 am
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       Here's Hank Marvin demostrating what he used in the day to
       create his special sound, and discussing what he uses these
       days.
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       There's an interview somewhere or other in which Don Wilson said
       his great palm-muting sound came from just using an original
       tube VOX AC-30 with the reverb set on 8 or 9. I'll try to find
       it and post it somewhere appropriate.
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       Hank
       By: abstamaria Date: February 13, 2012, 4:58 pm
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       Hank was of course talking about Charlie Hall, who put together
       programs for several off-the-shelf machines such as the Alesis
       Q20, all with great success.  He called his programs "Echoes of
       the Past." Hank has been using the expensive TVS echoes lately.
       These are especially made machines that replicate not only the
       echo patterns, EQ, etc for EACH Shadows piece, but also the
       warmth and tone of the tube Meazzis.
       All this shows how much is known about the Shadows sound.  The
       resources are quite dry about the early Ventures.
       Having said that, the Shadows sites are crammed with technical
       information, techniques, history, gear.  They are so incredibly
       useful.  In contrast, Undergroundfire tends to be more about
       Ventures discography and current play schedules.  There are some
       very knowledgeable guys there though who sometimes contribute,
       but the format just does not lend itself to someone studying a
       particular Ventures sound.
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       Re: Strings for that very early sound
       By: wstagner Date: February 13, 2012, 5:20 pm
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       One of the reasons this 4um was started was to accomplish a way
       of organizing all of this great info. ;)
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       Re: Strings for that very early sound
       By: abstamaria Date: March 9, 2012, 7:03 pm
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       Jeff,
       I just reread your post on this thread, which is very
       informative and interesting, thank you for taking the time to
       put it together.
       Andy
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       Re: Strings for that very early sound
       By: Jeff Green Date: July 12, 2015, 12:19 pm
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       You are very welcome Andy.
       Over 50 years of the electric guitar instrumental experience
       provides me decades of experimentation in the lab(on stage!)
       Yes, it did take me a bit if time to collect and collate my
       thoughts on the subject of "the" tone, and jot them down,
       although I consider it time well spent if the effort proves
       helpful to others to achieve their goals.
       I hope you gleaned some helpful information from the article.
       Jeff G.
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