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MEL TAYLOR vs JOE BARILE!
By: tabalt11 Date: December 29, 2011, 9:41 am
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This is a topic we had some fun with on the other Ventures
forum- UNDERGROUND FIRE 2. And to shed a little more light on
the subject, at this year's
FAN JAM in October, during the hour long Q&A with Bob Spalding &
Leon Taylor, yours truly brought up the topic from a different
perspective. Devout
fans know the particulars date-wise in the history of THE
VENTURES. "Leon, your Dad played with the band thru 1972, then
took a seven year hiatus
to form his own band The Dynamics, & also work behind the scenes
doing promoting, session work, etc. The fellow that replaced
Dad for six of those
years- Joe Barile in my opinion infused the band with some
rather innovative playing, breathing new life into alot of the
old standards. We know you
came aboard in '98 with your own special brand of energy. My
question- do you know Joe & did you go back & listen to his
playing during those years
when Dad was away from the group? There's no denying his
importance to the band at such a critical time."
Also later I pointed out to Leon that his Dad had been
interviewed in Modern Drummer & was asked- "With your background
skills, high school marching
band, big band influenced by Gene Krupa, when you're playing
with The Ventures do you find yourself holding back since you're
obviously more suited for jazz." Mel's quote was priceless-
"Well The Ventures are a guitar band- not a drum band."
It's my feeling & I made it clear to Leon that at times Joe
Barile overplayed within the song so there were too many fills &
he agreed. There was also a
slight mention about timing regarding Joe & Bob Spalding added
that he had played on several side sessions with Joe & felt his
strengths were that his
percussion skills made him the perfect choice to back up The
Ventures as he did countless times when Mel returned to the
group on timbales, ****os,
kettle drums, etc. For instance, he was prominently used on
the New Testament LP. Presently I've been playing the LIVE LPS
from Joe's years in the
car & despite the obvious overplaying in spots- it's a joy
harkening back to his time spent with the band. In a sense, we
can compare his entrance into
the scheme of things with Gerry McGee's in '68 when he took over
for that 'somewhat famous' lead guitarist Nokie Edwards. At
that time, I think The
Ventures made a great career decision 'cause it came at the
psychedelic-underground music phase. To hear the standards
given the Joe Barile treat-
ment provided me anyway with a newfound enthusiasm for my
favorite band of all time.
I'd love to get some feedback here at FANS OF THE VENTURES on
this 'never gets old' topic. And thanks from your co-moderator
THOMAS!
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Re: MEL TAYLOR vs JOE BARILE!
By: wstagner Date: December 29, 2011, 9:14 pm
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I brot this up w/the boys @ 2day's practice 2.
Wood luv 2 heer what udder tix aboot dis.
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Re: MEL TAYLOR vs JOE BARILE!
By: oldflogger Date: December 30, 2011, 9:31 am
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here is a good clip of Joe on drums in Japan in 1977.
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ep7O03sUpo
some questioned asked of the Ventures on the video
Walk Don't Run-Diamond Head-Pipeline-Slaugher On Tenth
Can we ask couple of question in Japanese.
How Many times you been to Japan - Bob Bogle-16 times.
what is favorite food of Japanese - Don-Ramen
Nokie-Hamburger
Joe Barile-Okonomi Yaku(Japanese Pizza)
Bob Bogle-Yakiniku
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Re: MEL TAYLOR vs JOE BARILE!
By: tabalt11 Date: December 30, 2011, 9:42 am
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That's what we need more clips of. My favorite LP's are the
Japanese live offerings from the 70's. Really a shame that
VHS tapes weren't released from those years. Every once in a
while a clip like this will pop up but most likely they were
taken by fans in the audience. Thanks Rich!
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Re: MEL TAYLOR vs JOE BARILE!
By: wstagner Date: December 30, 2011, 9:43 am
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Here's a nice view of Joe's drumz/many tom toms:
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi6MLEuBOMc
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi6MLEuBOMc
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Re: MEL TAYLOR vs JOE BARILE!
By: wstagner Date: January 18, 2012, 5:32 pm
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It's a shame these guys don't have any audio OR video posted
anywhere:
HTML http://www.philanthonyband.com/index.html
How is one supposed to hire them if one has never heard them? :o
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Re: MEL TAYLOR vs JOE BARILE!
By: JonnieMicro Date: March 12, 2012, 12:30 pm
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Dear Phil Anthony Band Guy (Reply 5): do you mean no clips of
Barile and Taylor together? If not, surely you jest or are new
to this band. If you do mean Taylor Vs. Barile I couldn't agree
more--Don't think I ever saw any video of Barile. I'll do a web
search. Been getting lots'a surprises lately-- in addition to
skunk Baxter I was surprised n happy last night to see Rick
Derringer playing and singing Memphis with the group, and Peter
Frampton playing as well. The band was very supportive of them
musicianshipwise (sorry) and all three looked as happy and
thrilled as eight-year-olds on a Christmas morn ! Like I mean,
REALLY, thrilled.
By the way add my name to people unhappy with the reorganized
YouTube music section--it's hard to navigate and seems to have
little or no ability to search. LTR GTR.
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Re: MEL TAYLOR vs JOE BARILE!
By: tabalt11 Date: March 12, 2012, 1:44 pm
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The YOUTUBE CLIPS you mention with Baxter, Derringer & Frampton
are included on that 30TH ANN. SUPER SESSION
DVD. & other than studio work, Joe Barile & Mel never appeared
on stage together to my knowledge. Joe did add extra
percussion- (timbales, congas, etc.) on NEW TESTAMENT & a few
releases after the year 2000. His unique style came into the
band at just the right time, breathing NEW LIFE into alot of the
standards. It certainly would've been a treat to have them
both go
at it onstage in WIPE OUT & CARAVAN.
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Re: MEL TAYLOR vs JOE BARILE!
By: wstagner Date: March 12, 2012, 3:13 pm
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I don't like the new and NOT improved U toob look either. :(
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Re: MEL TAYLOR vs JOE BARILE!
By: Toogplaast Date: March 23, 2012, 5:30 pm
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I recall reading in an old issue of New Gandy Dancer that Mel
and Joe recorded an unreleased drum battle album together.
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