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#Post#: 165--------------------------------------------------
The Military and You: How I Make Fluffy Explode?
By: Mayclore Date: June 3, 2012, 7:20 pm
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The help desk is now open. Please post all your
military-related Cleveland endgame scenarios here, and I will
tell you how plausible they are. Also, feel free to ask
questions about what equipment would be used by any branch of
the armed forces to quell the fluffy tsunami, what their
doctrine would be, who's in charge of what, etc.
#Post#: 166--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Military and You: How I Make Fluffy Explode?
By: PhilSrobeighn Date: June 3, 2012, 9:34 pm
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Giant PA system blaring Cleveland Rocks as a herding device.
Please expound on plausibility and procedures.
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Re: The Military and You: How I Make Fluffy Explode?
By: Mayclore Date: June 3, 2012, 10:20 pm
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[quote author=Phil Srobeighn link=topic=7.msg166#msg166
date=1338777278]
Giant PA system blaring Cleveland Rocks as a herding device.
Please expound on plausibility and procedures.
[/quote]
The Army, Navy, and some civilian agencies already deploy a
crowd control system along these lines. It's called the Long
Range Acoustic Device. In fact, the LRAD is even used by
airports to keep wildlife off of runways.
It looks like this:
HTML http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/LRAD-US-Navy.jpg
It emits extremely loud sound in a narrow cone of about 30
degrees arc. Prolonged exposure will make you deaf within
fifteen meters, cause you extreme pain within a hundred, and
give you a headache at three hundred. While it usually plays a
loud tone, it can be used to broadcast warnings or messages, and
if you had a patrolling unit with a sense of irony, it could
surely play songs too. You can mount the device on the standard
Humvee or a boat. Relatively stationary platforms are
preferred, so airborne drones are out. This avoids collateral
civilian issues.
The LRAD is so loud, and fluffies so apparently sensitive to
loud noise, it could probably literally kill them.
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Re: The Military and You: How I Make Fluffy Explode?
By: Lord Anubis Date: June 3, 2012, 10:27 pm
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And they could conceivably scale it down enough that it only
causes pain and drives them away?
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Re: The Military and You: How I Make Fluffy Explode?
By: Mayclore Date: June 3, 2012, 10:28 pm
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[quote author=Lord Anubis link=topic=7.msg173#msg173
date=1338780460]
And they could conceivably scale it down enough that it only
causes pain and drives them away?
[/quote]
They can turn down the volume.
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Re: The Military and You: How I Make Fluffy Explode?
By: PhilSrobeighn Date: June 4, 2012, 12:52 am
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If proper code clearance had already been issued through an
actual commander, could a fluffy pony accidentally issue the
final command to launch a Weapon of Mass Destruction? Something
like:
> Reactivated General Schwarzkopf (special guest cameo just for
the example) has the go code from the President/the
Pentagon/whatever chain of command needs to approve this
> Radios the launch codes to the traditional two guys with the
keys that have to be turned
> But has them hold to see the result of X situation (or to try
to ensure the maximum civilian evacuations)
> Meanwhile, Fluffy finds a radio from a soldier downed by a
fluffy riot
> Thinking they are standing by for lunch, asks to get lunch
> Guys with keys thinks that it is a garbled transmission from
active combat zone but are sure enough that they just heard
launch and turn the keys
> Cleveland gets nuked
> Nearby silo of corn pops and overflows
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Re: The Military and You: How I Make Fluffy Explode?
By: Lord Anubis Date: June 4, 2012, 1:11 am
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If we want to bathe Cleveland in deadly corn-popping radiation,
I say a nuclear power plant clusterfuck is the better way to do
that. That also provides a setup for highly irradiated fluffies
turning into zomfluffs.
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Re: The Military and You: How I Make Fluffy Explode?
By: fluff_n_stuff Date: June 4, 2012, 8:38 am
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How hard would it be to get an artillery strike or conventional
airstrike onto a abandoned civilian area that the Army has
pulled out of? I'm guessing "not very."
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Re: The Military and You: How I Make Fluffy Explode?
By: Mayclore Date: June 4, 2012, 9:12 am
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[quote author=Phil Srobeighn link=topic=7.msg176#msg176
date=1338789121]
If proper code clearance had already been issued through an
actual commander, could a fluffy pony accidentally issue the
final command to launch a Weapon of Mass Destruction? Something
like:
> Reactivated General Schwarzkopf (special guest cameo just for
the example) has the go code from the President/the
Pentagon/whatever chain of command needs to approve this
> Radios the launch codes to the traditional two guys with the
keys that have to be turned
> But has them hold to see the result of X situation (or to try
to ensure the maximum civilian evacuations)
> Meanwhile, Fluffy finds a radio from a soldier downed by a
fluffy riot
> Thinking they are standing by for lunch, asks to get lunch
> Guys with keys thinks that it is a garbled transmission from
active combat zone but are sure enough that they just heard
launch and turn the keys
> Cleveland gets nuked
> Nearby silo of corn pops and overflows
[/quote]
If you mean strategic weapons, those are Minuteman III ICBMs
belonging to the United States Air Force's Global Strike
Command, which has direct communication with the National
Command Authority through the Joint Chiefs of Staff/Unified
Combatant Commands and would not be using field radios because
they are unsecured devices.
If you mean tactical nuclear weapons, a lot of those are B61
variable yield devices from what's called the United States
Enduring Stockpile, all of which are carried by Air Force
aircraft. Again, they would be receiving instructions over a
secure link from the NCA/JCS/UCC officers. Any pilot en route
to an area of operations bearing armed nuclear devices is not
going to deploy their weapons without triple and quadruple
checking with their chains of command. They would not be
heeding staticky messages over unsecured communications.
The US nuclear stockpile is one of the most rigidly maintained
arsenals on Earth, especially after an incident in 2007, where a
B-52H carrying six AGM-129A cruise missiles loaded with W80
variable yield warheads left Minot AFB in North Dakota without
having the warheads removed, as is procedure, and those warheads
were unaccounted for during a 36 hour period. In fact, that
incident is the reason Global Strike Command even exists, as
part of the reshuffling of Air Force commands after the
investigation.
[quote author=fluff_n_stuff link=topic=7.msg180#msg180
date=1338817104]
How hard would it be to get an artillery strike or conventional
airstrike onto a abandoned civilian area that the Army has
pulled out of? I'm guessing "not very."
[/quote]
US Army artillery units in action generally receive fire support
missions from a Fire Direction Center. An artillery unit
(called a battery) is commanded by the battalion to which it is
attached, whose commanding officer is usually a Lieutenant
Colonel or a Colonel. A battery has two parts. The teeth of
the unit are the firing sections. Each firing section has
individual gun sections; each of these is comprised of a gun and
its crew. There are six gun sections in a towed artillery
battery, and eight in an SPG (self-propelled gun) battery. The
other part of the battery is the aforementioned Fire Direction
Center, who takes fire support requests from troops in the field
or commanders at the applicable Headquarters. The FDC sends
coordinates to the firing section, who in turn launches the iron
downrange.
Close air support can be provided by the Air Force, Army (with
AH-64 Apache helicopters), and US Marines. Each branch has a
different unit structure, but again, close air support can
easily be accessed by infantry (with approval from commanders,
of course) in a similar way to artillery support. The Air Force
uses the A-10 Thunderbolt II, F-15E Strike Eagle, F-16 Fighting
Falcon, F-35A Lightning II, B-1B and B-52H bombers, and the
devastating AC-130 gunship. The Marines use the AV-8B Harrier
II, and variants of the F/A-18 Hornet, and will soon have the
F-35B Lightning II in this role as well.
Um, sorry for the wall of text. Tl;dr answer: no, not terribly
hard.
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Re: The Military and You: How I Make Fluffy Explode?
By: PhilSrobeighn Date: June 4, 2012, 4:03 pm
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So with the push towards fluffy-based and not military-based
explosion, my question is this: How do I get an ex Marine
Reservist into a battle on US Soil the fastest, and what would
he do?
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