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       Would the careers officer recommend it?
   DIR By: Slowcoach
       Date: August 24, 2013, 11:10 am
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       OK, so we have lots of new members joining but it takes a little
       while to settle in and hopefully, the newbies will soon start
       putting up their own posts to form the basis of a discussion.
       Please don't hesitate to post because unlike some sites, no one
       on here bites and Krystal keeps us all under control :))
       Pre-amble over now to the next debate which I have deliberately
       framed as a broad one to get everyone contributing.
       For those old enough to remember, they used to say "Never allow
       your daughter on to the stage, Mrs Brown".  So, we will update
       that a bit!
       Would you allow/recommend/encourage your daughter (it doesn't
       matter if you don't have a daughter - hypothetical) to learn a
       trade as a pro whether this be as a domme or a switch?  Is it a
       good and recommended career move or a fair, valued and
       respectable way to earn a living?
       Loads of points to make here both for and against. No right or
       wrong answers - just opinions to share and we might all gain a
       few insights by sharing views and opinions.  Who is going to
       kick this one off?
       #Post#: 333--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would the careers officer recommend it?
   DIR By: Slowcoach
       Date: August 25, 2013, 1:58 am
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       No-one about as yet on this fine Sunday Morning!
       To start you off, we will look at "Safety" aspects - is being a
       pro domme/switch a safe occupation/job
       Let's cover this one first - thoughts, please!
       #Post#: 334--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would the careers officer recommend it?
   DIR By: Grant Marks
       Date: August 25, 2013, 8:47 am
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       I have a lovely lady friend who is well know in the CP game and
       she found that her also lovely daughter learnt of Mums "goings
       on" and showed an interest in it. She was introduce carefully
       and caringly to it with the use of trusted players. All went
       swimmingly until the dreaded boyfriend somewhere down the line
       started to become suspicious and, although given an indication
       by the daughter of her interests, didn't want to play and she
       felt it best to back out of further forays onto the successful
       world that her Mum lived in. I was bereft and saddened and very
       annoyed with the dipstick of a boyfriend, but such if life. She
       was a little cracker though!
       I know of another Mother Daughter duo where the Daughter brought
       her Mum into it,and we have a lovely time, much to the amusement
       of the Daughter when we 3 play together.
       I forget the reason for my reply now, but it does work and the
       morals behind it I think, are if it feels right and all parties
       are fully aware of what they are doing and not hurting anybody
       else, ( you know what I mean). then what is the harm. After all,
       one doesn't have to do it full time.
       #Post#: 335--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would the careers officer recommend it?
   DIR By: Slowcoach
       Date: August 25, 2013, 11:47 am
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       Yes, indeed, Grant, there are mother and daughter combinations
       and some operate together. I know of another situation whereby
       the really quite famous CP specialist apprenticed her own
       daughter who know operates under her own "stage name" so not
       everyone knows about their connection.
       Thus we see that "keeping it in the family firm" can work but as
       you say, boyfriends can have a large influence both ways - for
       and against.
       No-one has looked at safety as yet but there are plenty of other
       issues and points to raise so keep posting everyone.
       I will start the safety one if it helps in kicking things off.
       Last week, I learned to a 22 yr old spankee/switch who is
       probably good and certainly very dynamic and resourceful. She
       shares bases but will travel (alone) and if necessary will
       attend at your own home if you assist with the rail fare. Now
       how safe is this, I ask? She is seemingly willing to enter the
       house of an entirely unknown to act as a sub but without obvious
       back up - no chaperon sitting outside in a car. Thoughts on this
       and other aspects of safety for swiches/dommes, please!
       #Post#: 336--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would the careers officer recommend it?
   DIR By: misterw
       Date: August 25, 2013, 1:00 pm
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       This is a slightly more difficult than perhaps seems at first.
       Yes, the girl could be putting herself in a vulnerable situation
       and personally I never have any objection to a chaperone. Then
       again, the male she's visiting could also be in a difficult
       situation if the girl made untrue allegations and he didn't have
       his own chaperone to back him up.
       A similar situation often occurs in my professional world of
       photography where you get young female (and male) models
       travelling to premises and homes unaccompanied. Some
       photographers allow them to bring chaperones and some don't.
       Only a few photographers insist on chaperones of their own. This
       can be got around by using a professional photographic studio
       where there will be at least the owner around to call on if
       things go wrong, but many don't bother.
       Pretty well everyone has a mobile phone these days, so perhaps
       that adds a little security that didn't exist a few years ago.
       Then again, perhaps I've discovered a new business opportunity!
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       Re: Would the careers officer recommend it?
   DIR By: Slowcoach
       Date: August 25, 2013, 1:14 pm
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       Good points made here - see previous answer.
       And if the 22 yr old was acting as a sub (she is a full switch),
       what if she allowed herself to be bound and gagged? Mobile phone
       would not help in this situation and neither would it help in a
       no signal area!
       Also, good points made concerning the client being at risk from
       malicious or untrue allegations. In the cases of nearly all
       criminal allegations, there is a presumption of innocence until
       proven guilty but not so in the case of malicious sexual
       allegations where the initiative rests with  the accused who is
       faced with the task of proving his innocence - not easy in some
       cases and reputation and personal life ruined by then - mud
       sticks!
       #Post#: 340--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would the careers officer recommend it?
   DIR By: Grant Marks
       Date: August 25, 2013, 4:22 pm
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       Over the last few months I have acted as a Mentor for a switch
       lady who although has been in the scene for a while has had no
       real experience of meeting the "right sort" of guys and has had
       very little safety built into her activities. One thing that I
       am very relieved about is that she won't visit without her
       Guard/Driver being close at hand.
       I think there are a number of safety checks that can be used to
       try and make life a little safer and these do include the mobile
       phone. Pre checks on the background of a potential new client
       can be a good guide, where a name of another person who has
       played with the client and a contact made to get some feed back.
       I have used this myself and indeed requested some of my girls to
       check me out. I feel that this puts them at ease knowing that
       they will be meeting a "safe Player" so helping to get our
       meeting under way more easily.
       There are several others which I wont put into open forum as
       they could be used to negate the benefit of security if known
       about.  C:-)
       #Post#: 345--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would the careers officer recommend it?
   DIR By: Admin
       Date: August 25, 2013, 5:40 pm
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       I totally agree Grant, well said!!
       #Post#: 346--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would the careers officer recommend it?
   DIR By: Slowcoach
       Date: August 26, 2013, 12:25 am
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       --- Quote from: Grant Marks GM link ---
       >
       > Pre checks on the background of a potential new client can be
       a good guide, where a name of another person who has played with
       the client and a contact made to get some feed back.
       > I have used this myself and indeed requested some of my girls
       to check me out. I feel that this puts them at ease knowing that
       they will be meeting a "safe Player" so helping to get our
       meeting under way more easily.
       >
       > There are several others which I wont put into open forum as
       they could be used to negate the benefit of security if known
       about.  C:-)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I am guessing that Grant drops a couple of names almost in the
       form of testimonials along the lines of "Feel free to check me
       out with Mistress X."  Does this not lead to any loyalty issues,
       Grant? For example, would not Mistress X feel a bit miffed that
       one of her supposedly loyal customers was playing away from home
       or does it not work like this? In other words, is no customer
       loyalty expected by the previously visited pros?
       #Post#: 349--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would the careers officer recommend it?
   DIR By: Admin
       Date: August 26, 2013, 8:28 am
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       Of course it doesn't work that way...
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