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The history of history
By: Alharacas Date: April 24, 2019, 6:20 am
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Obviously, what you learn most about in history at school is
your own country. But what else were you taught about? And do
you think there were good reasons for some things being part of
the curriculum while others were left out?
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Re: The history of history
By: Chizuko hanji Date: April 24, 2019, 9:24 am
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When I was a child, I wasn't taught that Japan invaded Korea and
China. I was taught that it was an annexation. It sounds like
two countries merged into a bigger country. Now, I know it
wasn't. Why did school use sophistry？I read many excuses
about it. It says that teaching inconvenient truth decrease the
children self-esteem as a Japanese and children have to grow up
looking at only good behaviors of the parents. Nowadays,
Japanese history is revealed by many left wings and liberalists.
They have an organisation that is named a group of making a real
history book. Explanation of the invasion often becomes
controversy. I haven't read the current books of school books,
so I don't know, but I guess it is written "invasion". It should
be.
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Re: The history of history
By: SuKi Date: April 24, 2019, 10:26 am
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A large chunk of my GCSE history curriculum seemed to be taken
up with Otto von Bismarck, and I remember my teacher telling us
that the first question on the paper was always either his
domestic or foreign policies. So I boned up on both of those,
and on the day of the exam I turned over the question paper and
regurgitated everything I'd learnt.
I got an A. That was the last history exam I ever took.
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Re: The history of history
By: Nikola Date: April 24, 2019, 10:47 am
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When my parents went to school, the curriculum had been adjusted
to fit the ideology back then. They learned a lot about Russia
and the Soviet countries, mostly modern history, the Tsardom was
not a popular topic. They talked extensively about WW2 which I
find interesting because it had only ended 12 years before they
went to school. From the way it was taught, you got the
impression that Russia had fought and won the war on its own. No
mention of things such as the Katyn Massacre, of course (it
wasn't officially admitted until 1990 - another reason why you
should wait longer before teaching about a particular event, new
facts come to light). They did learn a bit about America but of
course they were mostly negative things, not necessarily lies...
but telling lies and presenting an unbalanced portrayal of a
country's history have a very similar effect.
When I went to school, our history teacher tried to teach us
about absolutely everything. I think she was very eager to make
up for the decades of "bad history". It was too much, I couldn't
take it in. She'd run around the classroom frantically, asking
us what had been happening at different places around the world
at the same time, she'd go "yes, that's right, they beheaded him
but what was happening in China at that time?"
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Re: The history of history
By: Truman Overby Date: April 24, 2019, 11:09 am
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[quote author=SuKi link=topic=999.msg14711#msg14711
date=1556119614]
A large chunk of my GCSE history curriculum
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What's GCSE, Susan?
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Re: The history of history
By: Chizuko hanji Date: April 24, 2019, 11:32 am
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And I think about Japanese history that teachers and books have
to tell why they invade rather than choosing which words,
invasion or annexation. "Why did they do it "is important.
If you know the reason, you are able to think what happens next.
Who exactly controls the events of the history? Why? That's
important. That's why the schools (government) don't teach the
truth.They don't want people to know who controls behind and who
makes profits.
As for other history of school subject, I don't remember that
much. I learned the basic history of the world events like when
they did, who, where, and what. but I can't recall about "why
they did so".
One more thing, children should know more about the 20 century
than the 15 century.
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Re: The history of history
By: SuKi Date: April 24, 2019, 11:41 am
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[quote author=Keep America Great!
link=topic=999.msg14714#msg14714 date=1556122189]
[quote author=SuKi link=topic=999.msg14711#msg14711
date=1556119614]
A large chunk of my GCSE history curriculum
[/quote]
What's GCSE, Susan?
[/quote]
Here you go, Jerry:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Certificate_of_Secondary_Education
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Re: The history of history
By: Chizuko hanji Date: April 24, 2019, 12:13 pm
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Coincidentally, I finished reading a history book about money
today. It's the story from the origin of coin in Persian to Bit
coin on the internet. The establishment of England bank, German
debt, Nixon shock and Riemann shock, something about those
things were written briefly. It was interesting and I'm thinking
when the extinction of paper money will be and how the next
money war will be. A few people already won, but they will never
stop because a new enemy is getting stronger.
I was about 10 years old when Nixon shocked the world, so no one
taught me about this historical event that changed the world
economy . I learned it at school 5 yeras later, but no teachers
explained why he did it. But I think that some clever parents
somewhere in the world told their children why Nixon did so and
what was going to happen next. Adults around me didn't tell me
anything. It was a big difference and gap of education.
Now I, a tiny creature somewhere in the world, just do nothing
but enjoy a glass of beer tonight, thinking about the history.
A few years ago, I read books of the history of sugar and
chocolates. Such a small sweet has a long remarkable story.
I tried to read the book, "Guns, Germs and Steel" since I
watched it on BBC (maybe). It was a great TV show of history and
I read the book in Japanese. It explains with complicate
detailed information and data to prove his theory. Of course it
has to be, but I slept under the book.
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Re: The history of history
By: SHL Date: April 24, 2019, 12:41 pm
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[quote author=Alharacas link=topic=999.msg14708#msg14708
date=1556104855]
Obviously, what you learn most about in history at school is
your own country. But what else were you taught about? And do
you think there were good reasons for some things being part of
the curriculum while others were left out?
[/quote]
Most of what I was taught in history was centered on the US, of
course, and to a far lesser extent on the history of other
countries. In fact, all I was taught about other countries had
to do with wars they were involved in. Nothing to do with
contemporary life in those countries, nothing of importance. The
US was eulogized. Its sordid history was whitewashed. Half the
US States seceding (roughly), that is illegally leaving the
country to form their own country, was clearly treasonous (the
US was never like the EU of course). Even if the secession were
not enough to be treasonous, starting a war against the
remaining US Union States clearly was, by any stretch of the
imagination. And, the winning of the Civil War was whitewashed
as meaning nothing. Jefferson Davis, the President of the
Confederate States and Robert E. Lee should have been publically
hanged, along representatives of the Confederate government for
treason, but instead they were eulogized as heroes to their
people and bronze statutes were made of them on horses and put
in parks. All the States that seceded were readmitted and when
it was all over all that was said was „all is forgiven, just
don‘t do it again“ when those States should have been dissolved
as political entities and incorporated into Northern
non-treasonous States. Then the harm these States continued to
inflict on the country took another 100 years to straighten out,
and is still causing trouble to this day. But, that’s the US for
you. A sick country only getting sicker, with a morbid past.
Sorry I can‘t comment on other countries‘ histories. Those sorts
of things are only taught in specialized classes at US
Universities. Only negative things about other countries are
taught in US elementary secondary schools.
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Re: The history of history
By: Chizuko hanji Date: April 24, 2019, 2:08 pm
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SHL
[quote]Sorry I can‘t I can‘t comment on other countries‘
histories. Those sorts of things are only taught in specialized
classes at US Universities. Only negative things about other
countries are taught in US elementary secondary schools.[/quote]
That's why people read books by themselves after graduation.
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