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       Re: Would You Like to React to....?
       By: Nikola Date: April 21, 2019, 12:31 pm
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       OK, it was unexpected and you look at it differently when you
       watch it the second time but why did they put the girl in the
       car with him? When I watched it for the first time, I thought
       they might have killed the groom and buried him somewhere.
       #Post#: 14656--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would You Like to React to....?
       By: MartinSR Date: April 21, 2019, 5:33 pm
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       [quote author=Terecia link=topic=991.msg14642#msg14642
       date=1555853859]
       Were you surprised that you would find this kind of plot
       twist on an Asian music video?
       [/quote]
       In fact I rarely see Asian music videos, so I treated it as if
       it would be European or from the other part of the world.
       Probably I belong to the generation which is still easy to
       surprise with such twists, even though I have seen a lot of them
       during my life. Maybe it depends on the place I live in, which
       is always a few decades behind the West of Europe (for
       historical reasons). I can't say it raises other emotions, but
       surprise...yes. The new generation is different. I talked to my
       adult son - there are much less things which can surprise him
       and his colleagues.
       Being aware of changes in this world, we still think using old
       schemes...
       #Post#: 14666--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would You Like to React to....?
       By: NealC Date: April 21, 2019, 8:35 pm
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       Ok, maybe I am dumb.  How does it twist?
       I remember the twist ending on this video fooled me back in the
       day:
  HTML https://youtu.be/8mGBaXPlri8
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       Re: Would You Like to React to....?
       By: Susan Date: April 21, 2019, 9:42 pm
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       The twist I saw was that the video led you to believe it was
       about jealousy over a girl, then the end suggested that the
       jealousy was about the relationship between the boys.
       The only reason I am not totally surprised by it is that I
       watched a documentary about K-Pop in Netflix.  (In Spanish it is
       a series called ¨En Pocos Palabras.¨ I think the original
       English version is a series called ¨Explained.¨)  They try to
       make the K-Pop videos outrageous and extravagant.  This one was
       actually visually much more simple than the clips of ones in the
       documentary.
       #Post#: 14674--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would You Like to React to....?
       By: Alharacas Date: April 22, 2019, 4:02 am
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       [quote author=Terecia link=topic=991.msg14642#msg14642
       date=1555853859]
       Were you surprised that you would find this kind of plot twist
       on an Asian music video?
       [/quote]
       Not sure about "Asian", but as to Korea... well, yes. Because of
       articles like this one:
  HTML https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/society/article/2164130/why-south-korea-so-intolerant-its-gay-community
       Mind you, I don't think it's a very good article. For one thing,
       it doesn't even attempt to explain anything, not in my opinion,
       at any rate. For another, I'd say for a country which only
       abolished its openly anti-gay laws about 15 years ago, an
       approval rate of 37% for same-sex marriage is nothing short of
       fantastic.
       #Post#: 14677--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would You Like to React to....?
       By: Terecia Date: April 22, 2019, 6:53 am
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       The first time I watch the music video, I was speechless
       because that kind of plot twist would be the last thing on my
       mind. I became interested in Korean society since I befriended
       with some Koreans. I didn't spend my time doing a deeper study
       about it, however, I could say that it's not a place where I
       wanted to be.
       I found a blog written in 2012 (not quite sure whether a
       Korean who wrote it). I found it interesting. Here are some
       passages s/he wrote:
       Homosexuality has, for (too) many years, been a subject
       of controversy throughout the world. However, Korea has taken a
       relatively unique stance for quite some time- Korean society
       largely just acts like homosexuality doesn't exist. In a society
       where genders are separated eagerly and early, where men - via
       their forced conscription into the army - are pushed into
       all-male environments for nearly two years at a time,  even
       acknowledging the fact that homosexuality exists as an
       orientation could be awkward to many people. The consequences of
       sex segregation go beyond gender discrimination and may obscure
       social dialogue about homosexuality.
       But attitudes are changing and the Korean media, over the
       course of the last decade, has finally begun to represent
       homosexuality across its various mediums.
       In the world of K-pop, however, there has been very little
       progress. With Hallyu resulting in Korean media being exported
       to countries that remain even more conservative, Korean pop
       companies appear to have avoided much interaction with
       homosexuality and its presence in society. K.Will's "Please
       Don't" music video features a very clear and inarguable
       reference to homosexual love; this is a big game changer.
       The issues that homosexuals in Korea face with regard to
       societal and family pressure are no joke.
       K.Will's video leaves the relationship of the two men
       ambiguous, but it appears as if they lived together, and that
       the woman has not been around for terribly long. Therefore, it
       is not a stretch to argue that the two men had been involved
       with one another before one was pushed to marry, a story that
       parallels what happens all too often in a country that places
       such high value on filial piety.
       
       [right]
  HTML http://koreangendercafe.blogspot.com/2012/10/reaction-to-seoulbeats-review-of-kwills.html[/right]
       I feel pity for them who live in such a society.
       #Post#: 14678--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would You Like to React to....?
       By: Terecia Date: April 22, 2019, 7:01 am
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       [quote author=Nikola link=topic=991.msg14647#msg14647
       date=1555867879]
       OK, it was unexpected and you look at it differently when you
       watch it the second time but why did they put the girl in the
       car with him? When I watched it for the first time, I thought
       they might have killed the groom and buried him somewhere.
       [/quote]
       
       Thank you for sharing your creativity here. Have you ever
       thought about becoming a director or scriptwriter?
       Did you mean why the girl was in the car? Just to make
       the audience thought that the third-wheel guy loves her, I
       guess. At least, that's what I thought.
       What did you think?
       #Post#: 14679--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would You Like to React to....?
       By: NealC Date: April 22, 2019, 7:05 am
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       "Have you ever thought about becoming a director or
       scriptwriter?"
       Yeah Nikola :-)
       #Post#: 14680--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would You Like to React to....?
       By: Terecia Date: April 22, 2019, 7:14 am
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       [quote author=NealC link=topic=991.msg14666#msg14666
       date=1555896908]
       Ok, maybe I am dumb.  How does it twist?
       [/quote]
       I'm afraid I couldn't answer your question properly due to
       my lack of English proficiency. So, I give you another link of
       my most favourite reaction video regarding this music video. I'm
       sorry.
       
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXdx5Rghqzg
       By the way, the video that you attached, I remembered it
       was very phenomenal at the time.
       #Post#: 14682--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would You Like to React to....?
       By: Terecia Date: April 22, 2019, 8:11 am
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       [quote author=Susan link=topic=991.msg14668#msg14668
       date=1555900929]
       I think the original English version is a series called
       ¨Explained.¨)  They try to make the K-Pop videos outrageous and
       extravagant.  This one was actually visually much more simple
       than the clips of ones in the documentary.
       [/quote]
       Thank you for sharing your reaction. And, thanks also for
       the information about the series. I don't subscribe to Netflix,
       I don't know whether I could find it on YouTube Channel.
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