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#Post#: 13992--------------------------------------------------
Re: Take on Me
By: Nikola Date: April 1, 2019, 5:15 pm
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That's interesting, Steve. Doesn't "lass mich auf dich ein"
sound a bit dirty? Maybe it's just my German (it couldn't
possibly be my mind, no way).
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Re: Take on Me
By: SHL Date: April 1, 2019, 7:25 pm
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[quote author=Nikola link=topic=943.msg13992#msg13992
date=1554156937]
That's interesting, Steve. Doesn't "lass mich auf dich ein"
sound a bit dirty? Maybe it's just my German (it couldn't
possibly be my mind, no way).
[/quote]
I don‘t think „lass mich auf dich ein“ sounds especially dirty,
and none of the sources I looked at flag it as such, which they
usually do. So, I have no idea where the translator(s) came up
with that translation, but it seems to fit the context, and if
you look at the context of the music video, which came out in
1985, it seems to fit that context too.
You probably know that „take me on“ or „take on me“ does have a
colloquial meaning in English, which is negative and doesn‘t fit
the context of the song. You know, the phrase means to challenge
someone, attack them, fight them (which interestingly enough
fits that alternate meaning of „jemanden annehmen“ which the
song translators gave as an alternate, and means to attack in
German, according to Duden). Like, you might hear something like
„That guy is too much of a wimp to take me on“, meaning
challenge me to fight, or attack me. You can also flip it
around in English and say the same thing, for instance, „He
can‘t take on me (or me on), but I can take him on (or take on
him)“ and that has reference to taking on someone in a fight,
and being able to kick their a*s. Neal, Jerry or Susan could
confirm that expression. It may just be a US expression, I don`t
know. I‘ve heard that said hundreds, if not thousands of times.
But, obviously that doesn‘t fit the song context. So, I don‘t
want to leave you with the notion that the phrase to „take
someone on“ has no meaning, because it clearly does. It‘s like
the German attack, but more specifically like challenge someone,
be ready to beat the person up or something and walk away the
victor.
There‘s another more benign sounding use of „take someone on“ in
English, which is a reference to hiring someone for work. „The
company decided to take me on as a new hire, You can also say
,The company decided to take on me as a new hire.“ Those are the
only two meanings that come to find off the top of my head. And,
of course, neither have anything to do with the context of the
song.
#Post#: 13995--------------------------------------------------
Re: Take on Me
By: SHL Date: April 1, 2019, 8:05 pm
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Weezer did a January 2019 music video of the song, (using other
much younger singers of course) which is clever because it´s in
a retro 1985 setting. I like the way they have the house all set
up to look mid-1980s. They did a good job at that. But, I sure
don‘t remember anyone having personal computers, at home, in
those days. They cost like $5,000 or more, adjusted for
inflation, back then and they were just word processors and for
games I think. Who had that kind of money for something like
that? And, there was no internet.
It´s good:
HTML https://youtu.be/f7RwDnZI7Tw
Talking away.
I don't know what
I'm to say
I'll say it anyway
Today is another day to find you
Shying away
I'll be coming for your love, okay?
Take on me (Take on me)
Take me on (Take on me)
I'll be gone
In a day or two
So needless to say
I'm odds and ends
But I'll be
Stumbling away
Slowly learning that life is okay
Say after me
It's no better to be safe than sorry
Wir reden drauflos
Ich weiß nicht, was
Ich sagen soll,
Aber ich sag's trotzdem.
Und heute stelle ich schon wieder fest,
Dass du mir ausweichst.
Ich komme und hole mir deine Liebe, OK?
Vertrau mir,
lass dich auf mich ein. 1)
In ein, zwei Tagen werde ich fort sein.
Ziemlich unnötig zu erwähnen,
das ich verunsichert bin. 2)
Doch ich werde davonstolpern,
(Und erst) langsam (wieder) begreifen, dass das Leben ok ist.
Sprich mir nach:
"Es ist nicht besser auf Nummer sicher zu gehen, als zu
bereuen." 3)
Vertrau mir,
lass dich auf mich ein.
In ein, zwei Tagen werde ich fort sein.
Oh, die Dinge die du sagst,
Sind sie wahr oder
(sollen sie) nur meine Sorgen vertreiben?
Du bist alles, woran ich mich erinnern muss.
Du scheust vor mir zurück,
Aber ich werde mich dir trotzdem nähern.
Vertrau mir,
lass dich auf mich ein.
Innerhalb eines Tages werde ich fort sein...
1) take on me, take me on - bedeutet dasselbe, ist bloß ein
Wortspiel = "nimm mich an"
2) andere Möglichkeit: "Nicht mehr weiter weiß" "mit meinem
Latein am Ende bin"
3) oder: "Vorsicht ist nicht besser als Nachsicht
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Re: Take on Me
By: Nikola Date: April 2, 2019, 2:42 pm
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Thanks for posting the German translation, Steve. I've been
having a great time singing it. We should do this more often. I
wonder if they chose "lass dich auf mich ein" because it rhymes
with "sein". These translations are made by real people, right?
#Post#: 14020--------------------------------------------------
Re: Take on Me
By: Truman Overby Date: April 2, 2019, 2:55 pm
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I might post it in Georgian. Steve's having all of the fun with
his German obsession. I'm really glad that you posted the
official German lyrics, Steve. I can't tell you how many times
I've heard people sitting around the coffee shop wondering what
the German lyrics are for this song. It's the first thing most
people think of. It's incredibly beautiful in German. Kinda
makes me wonder why all songs are not written in German. What a
blessing that would be for mankind. Thanks again, Steve. We all
owe you one for this beautiful act of magnanimity.
#Post#: 14022--------------------------------------------------
Re: Take on Me
By: NealC Date: April 2, 2019, 3:12 pm
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The guy at the pizza place had it on Radio One Italia
Parlare.
Non so cosa
Devo dire
Lo dirò comunque
Oggi è un altro giorno per trovarti
Shying away
Verrò per il tuo amore, ok?
Prendi me (prendi me)
Portami su (Prendi su di me)
sarò andato
In un giorno o due
Quindi inutile dire
Sono in vantaggio
Ma lo sarò
Inciampando via
Imparando lentamente che la vita va bene
Dì dopo di me
Non è meglio essere al sicuro che dispiaciuti
#Post#: 14023--------------------------------------------------
Re: Take on Me
By: NealC Date: April 2, 2019, 3:14 pm
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It is best in Georgian tho, the real difference between take on
me and take me on is highlighted in the Georgian version.
საუბარი
მოშორებით.
მე არ ვიცი
რა
მე ვთქვი
ამას მაინც
გეტყვით
დღეს არის
კიდევ ერთი
დღე
თქვენთვის
შური
მოშორებით
მე ვიქნები
თქვენი
სიყვარული&
#4321;თვის,
კარგი?
მიიღეთ
ჩემზე
(მიიღეთ
ჩემზე)
წაიყვანე
(მიიღეთ
ჩემზე)
წასული
ვიქნები
ერთი ან
ორი დღის
განმავლობ&
#4304;ში
ასე რომ,
სათქმელია
მე შანსები
და
მთავრდება
მაგრამ მე
ვიქნები
დაბრკოლებ&
#4304;
ნელ-ნელა
სწავლა,
რომ
სიცოცხლე
კარგია
თქვი მას
შემდეგ
ეს არ არის
უკეთესი,
ვიდრე იყოს
ბოდიში
#Post#: 14025--------------------------------------------------
Re: Take on Me
By: SHL Date: April 2, 2019, 4:23 pm
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Well, I‘m glad you liked it Jerry (I really posted it for Nikola
because she knows German). I know you think my secret agenda is
inspire people to want to learn German, due it its lucidity and
beauty, but I fear that might be a lost cause with you guys.The
Georgian script is a little mind-boggling I must say. The
Italian looks interesting but I don‘t know how it sound if
spoken. :-*
But; Jerry, anytime you want to see more German on the board,
don‘t hesitate to ask!
#Post#: 14043--------------------------------------------------
Re: Take on Me
By: SHL Date: April 3, 2019, 11:46 pm
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Jerry and Neal,
What‘s the Italian and Georgian translations for „take on me“
and „take me on“ because, as you can see, the German was
footnoted to further explain the difficult translation. It‘s
hard to know what the words really mean in English; hence, the
translations, but I think we sort of get the feel for it.
But, like Neal said, when people like the song, the meaning
behind the words is not that important.
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