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Re: Bags
By: Allie Date: February 24, 2019, 10:52 am
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We use the same words a lot
1 - Bolsa (de mão)
2 - Bolsa (a tiracolo)
3 - Mochila
4 - Bolsa de academia
5 - sacola
6 - sacola (reutilizável)
7 - saco de lixo
3 - sacola / sacolinha de banheiro
9 - sacola (de papel)
10 - saco (de papel)
Just because I had forgotten to add: although "mochila" is a
specific term, we still can refer to the same object as "bolsa",
the generic term.
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Re: Bags
By: Chizuko hanji Date: February 24, 2019, 11:12 am
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By the way, why do women love bags and shoes? I was interested
in bags and shoes when I was young. But recently, I'm not. Am I
becoming a man?
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Re: Bags
By: Kseniia Date: February 24, 2019, 12:20 pm
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@Nikola, by the way, do you use any of these terms when
referring to marsupials? In Russian we call them
"сумчатые" (and
a pouch that female kangaroos have is called
сумка), so the Greek/Latin term is
translated. How does it work in Czech?
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Re: Bags
By: Nikola Date: February 24, 2019, 12:31 pm
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Yes, Chizuko. That is exactly what is happening. Soon, you will
need to choose a new pronoun because we won't be able to refer
to you as she any more and not as he, yet. Luckily, there's
plenty to choose from.
Thanks everyone, I didn't expect so many replies (mental note:
they like pictures).
It's nice to see that Portuguese also differentiates between
pictures number 9 and 10. Handles matter!
I've always found it a bit strange using thin paper bags for
grocery shopping. Must be because I don't drive. If you're
walking down the street and it starts raining, those things just
melt.
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Re: Bags
By: Nikola Date: February 24, 2019, 12:42 pm
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@Ksennia
Marsupials = vačnatci, derived from vak. Vak is a soft bag
that doesn't hold its shape, usually made out of fabric. Some
people call drawstring bags vaky. It's not used much in this
context anymore but it's widely used in biology (along with the
diminutive váček).
If you're not a scientist, you would call the thing kangaroos
have kapsa (pocket).
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Re: Bags
By: Alharacas Date: February 24, 2019, 1:35 pm
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"pocket" is so sweet, Nikola! :D
Glad I mentioned Beutel above, because that's what a marsupial's
German name is: Beuteltier. (Er, yes, so that would make it a
drawstring bag animal. But rest assured, we don't think of it
that way.)
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Re: Bags
By: SuKi Date: February 24, 2019, 3:05 pm
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I'd call number one a bag, number two a bag, number three a
bag...and so on.
I am completely, utterly mystified by 'pocketbook'.
Why book? Why pocket? Why, in the name of all that is sane and
reasonable, would anybody choose to refer to something as a
'pocketbook' when it (a) does not belong in a pocket and (b) is
clearly not a book?
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Re: Bags
By: NealC Date: February 24, 2019, 6:02 pm
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Never made sense to me either and it is usually said so fast as
a kid I thought the adults were saying "Pockabook".
I guess inside there are pockets?
It must have evolved from something else.
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Re: Bags
By: SHL Date: February 24, 2019, 8:30 pm
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The good ´ol days are gone forever now in California, when you
used to go to the supermarkets and they`d not only bag your
groceries for you for free, but give you the choice of paper or
plastic. I think this started about 2 years ago, but here it`s
just like in Germany. You go to the supermarket, no one bags
anything for you, you gotta do it all yourself, and you have to
bring your own bags, or buy one of theirs, which are not like
the old plastic ones, but are made out of some strange material
that looks sort of like plastic but is thicker. (Jerry and Neal
will have to say what the story is in Indiana and New York).
It´s some environmental thing. Maybe it´s got something to do
with not wanting the baby seals in the Pacific Ocean off San
Francisco to get caught up plastic bags people used to toss
away. ???
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Re: Bags
By: SHL Date: February 24, 2019, 8:37 pm
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[quote author=NealC link=topic=871.msg12875#msg12875
date=1551052947]
Never made sense to me either and it is usually said so fast as
a kid I thought the adults were saying "Pockabook".
I guess inside there are pockets?
It must have evolved from something else.
[/quote]
I think pocketbook is one of those regionalisms, because I never
hear pocketbook here. A few people maybe say it, but not
typically. I think that´s East Coast. Women carry a purse in a
handbag, or a wallet and men just carry a wallet. I used to hear
a neighbor kid`s parents call a wallet a „billfold“, but they
were from Alabama. No one here ever said billfold.
1. Woman`s handbag,
2. purse,
3. travel bag, or carry- on bag (usually with wheels and a
handle) for getting on a plane,
4. gym bag,
5. Shopping bag (looks like those dumb things we have to buy for
$0.10 a piece in the supermarkets, which I refuse to buy because
I think it`s a rip-off),
6. Shopping bag you`d buy yourself to use many times,
7. garbage bag or trash bag, or lawn and garden bag,
8. That´s the old plastic bags they used to give you for free at
the Supermarkt. Illegal now because they could strangle the baby
seals off the San Francisco Coast in the Pacific Ocean, with a
caveat, that you can still buy them to use as trashcan liners in
offices and homes (go figure that one out. You can`t use them in
the stores, but can only use them as liners for a trash can at
home? What? What kind of screwy legislators have we got out
here?)
9. Paperbag (but I`ve not seen one of those in a few years and
never liked them anyway since the handles always broke off and
all your groceries spilled out all over the place- they might be
illegal too. Maybe it`s a „save the trees“ rationale),
10. Same as 10. But without the handles it`s kind of
old-fashioned.
I have a feeling that folks like Wanda (she lives here you know)
are behind all this anti-plastic bag and anti-paper bag stuff.
It´s all about saving the baby seals and saving the trees most
likely.
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