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       #Post#: 12344--------------------------------------------------
       Pinning, unpinning, closing, banning, what are the privileges/ c
       ompetences of ADMIN?
       By: Aliph Date: February 10, 2019, 3:41 am
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       Hi there. I wanted to comment on a thread this morning and it
       was impossible. Spend about 10 Minutes to figure it out and
       thought that it was due to early signs of my premature cognitive
       decline. Then I figured out that ADMIN (on demand of the
       moderator?) had closed the topic, after admin had the last word
       of course
       Is my hypothesis correct?
       Some thoughts came to my mind:
       1) If ADMIN wants to close this joint, she just needs to push
       the button. No warning in advance no consultation of all the
       venerable members!
       2) if someone closes his account his posts are still visible,
       same thing if he is banned. Do you agree with that?
       3) these two rules are not specified in the ToS. Oh [s]I need a
       lawyer.[/s]
       That said, we never thanked our ADMIN for all the work she did
       until now. We are really ungrateful people, aren’t we?
       #Post#: 12345--------------------------------------------------
       Dutees and privileges of the ADMIN (2)
       By: Aliph Date: February 10, 2019, 3:52 am
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       Hi there. I wanted to comment on a thread this morning and it
       was impossible. Spend about 10 Minutes to figure it out and
       thought that it was due to early signs of my premature cognitive
       decline. Then I figured out that ADMIN (on demand of the
       moderator?) had closed the topic, after admin had the last word
       of course
       Is my hypothesis correct?
       Some thoughts came to my mind:
       1) If ADMIN wants to close this joint, she just needs to push
       the button. No warning in advance no consultation of all the
       venerable members!
       2) if someone closes his account his posts are still visible,
       same thing if he is banned. Do you agree with that?
       3) these two rules are not specified in the ToS.[s] Oh I need a
       lawyer[/s].
       That said, we never thanked our ADMIN for all the work she did
       until now. We are really ungrateful people, aren’t we?
       PS: I first posted this under ToS but then I saw that it wasn’t
       available for non-logged people so I posted it also under
       General Discussion.
       #Post#: 12348--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dutees and privileges of the ADMIN (2)
       By: Alharacas Date: February 10, 2019, 5:28 am
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       Sofia, I see your problem with the fact that posts remain.
       However, wasn't there a comment just recently about the awful
       discussions full of holes which remain on italki after all the
       banned members' posts have been erased? Is that what you'd
       prefer to see here?
       Plus, what if a suspended member re-appears? How are we supposed
       to re-create the discussions?
       #Post#: 12359--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dutees and privileges of the ADMIN (2)
       By: the lost minion Date: February 10, 2019, 7:34 am
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       [quote author=Sofia link=topic=838.msg12345#msg12345
       date=1549792373]
       Hi there. I wanted to comment on a thread this morning and it
       was impossible. Spend about 10 Minutes to figure it out and
       thought that it was due to early signs of my premature cognitive
       decline. Then I figured out that ADMIN (on demand of the
       moderator?) had closed the topic, after admin had the last word
       of course
       Is my hypothesis correct?
       Some thoughts came to my mind:
       1) If ADMIN wants to close this joint, she just needs to push
       the button. No warning in advance no consultation of all the
       venerable members!
       2) if someone closes his account his posts are still visible,
       same thing if he is banned. Do you agree with that?
       3) these two rules are not specified in the ToS.[s] Oh I need a
       lawyer[/s].
       That said, we never thanked our ADMIN for all the work she did
       until now. We are really ungrateful people, aren’t we?
       PS: I first posted this under ToS but then I saw that it
       wasn’t available for non-logged people so I posted it also
       under General Discussion.
       [/quote]
       ToS is precisely the place to discuss this. It is closed for
       guests because guests have no business reading our discussions
       about how the forum should be run.
       The said thread was closed by the moderator, but thank you very
       much for your concern.
       1. Yes, if I wanted to close this joint I could do it.
       2. This won't change. If you disagree, you're free to refrain
       from posting.
       3. We don't really have ToS so no wonder there is not much
       specified there.
       Thank you again, for your concern, Aliph.
       #Post#: 12361--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pinning, unpinning, closing, banning, what are the privilege
       s/ competences of ADMIN?
       By: Aliph Date: February 10, 2019, 8:15 am
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       [quote author=Marmolada link=topic=838.msg12359#msg12359
       date=1549805647]
       [quote author=Sofia link=topic=838.msg12345#msg12345
       date=1549792373]
       2) if someone closes his account his posts are still visible,
       same thing if he is banned. Do you agree with that?
       [/quote]
       1. Yes, if I wanted to close this joint I could do it.
       2. This won't change. If you disagree, you're free to refrain
       from posting.
       3. We don't really have ToS so no wonder there is not much
       specified there.
       [/quote]
       Sometimes, during times of crisis it is always better to explain
       in an explicit way things that seem obvious. Raising them up
       isn’t a sign of disagreement.
       For point 1 it is good to point out that we are in a way
       tributaries to the ADMIN who theoretically can do what she/he
       wants without consulting anybody.
       Regarding point 2, I was so used to Italki where posts desappear
       after somebody is banned that I thought that it was automatic on
       any site. I can see the utility to keep the posts visible.
       #Post#: 12362--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pinning, unpinning, closing, banning, what are the privilege
       s/ competences of ADMIN?
       By: Nikola Date: February 10, 2019, 8:18 am
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       Completely unrelated. Also contains violence and strong
       language.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLvz5E61UNs
       #Post#: 12363--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pinning, unpinning, closing, banning, what are the privilege
       s/ competences of ADMIN?
       By: grzybek Date: February 10, 2019, 8:20 am
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       [quote author=Sofia link=topic=837.msg12361#msg12361
       date=1549808111]
       [quote author=Marmolada link=topic=838.msg12359#msg12359
       date=1549805647]
       [quote author=Sofia link=topic=838.msg12345#msg12345
       date=1549792373]
       2) if someone closes his account his posts are still visible,
       same thing if he is banned. Do you agree with that?
       [/quote]
       1. Yes, if I wanted to close this joint I could do it.
       2. This won't change. If you disagree, you're free to refrain
       from posting.
       3. We don't really have ToS so no wonder there is not much
       specified there.
       [/quote]
       Sometimes, during times of crisis it is always better to explain
       in an explicit way things that seem obvious. Raising them up
       isn’t a sign of disagreement.
       For point 1 it is good to point out that we are in a way
       tributaries to the ADMIN who theoretically can do what she/he
       wants without consulting anybody.
       Regarding point 2, I was so used to Italki where posts desappear
       after somebody is banned that I thought that it was automatic on
       any site. I can see the utility to keep the posts visible.
       [/quote]
       1. It is impossible to delete a forum here. Period. But there
       are ways so if I wanted to, I could do this. I could do a lot of
       things - just as italki or any service provider for that matter
       could screw you over in a number of ways.
       2. It is not the way it is done. Italki is an exception - I
       suspect the primary reason behind this is simply poor design and
       not thinking things through before coding the site. And later
       on, simple inertia.
       #Post#: 12364--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pinning, unpinning, closing, banning, what are the privilege
       s/ competences of ADMIN?
       By: grzybek Date: February 10, 2019, 8:21 am
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       [quote author=Nikola link=topic=837.msg12362#msg12362
       date=1549808284]
       Completely unrelated. Also contains violence and strong
       language.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLvz5E61UNs
       [/quote]
       I like how effective she is.
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