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       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Chizuko hanji
       Date: May 10, 2018, 2:36 am
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       Allie
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       > Do you have a problem with a particular accent, for example?
       Have you ever had a "traumatic" experience or been pleasantly
       surprised?"
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       When I was 23 years old, more than 30 years ago now. aha!
       I met a British man at the library. We were very good friends at
       first. But every time he corrected my pronunciation R and L. I
       was irritated. And I stopped going to the library. We didn't
       have cell phones or computers in those days.
       One month later, I got a letter from him. He seemed to ask my
       address the librarian. It wasn't a big thing to tell the
       individual information to others. If it was today, the librarian
       would be reported. Anyway, I didn't reply or go back to the
       library.
       If I had met him again, would I have had another life?
       #Post#: 614--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Chizuko hanji
       Date: May 10, 2018, 2:57 am
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       Allie
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       > If you're not a NES, do you notice anything particular about
       the way your compatriots express themselves in English?
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       Yes, I do a lot. Japanese grammar is very much different from
       English. "I read a book" in English becomes "I a book read" in
       Japanese. And Japanese don't have stress or rhythm. So Japanese
       people tend to speak English like a robot speaks.
       More than that, Japanese people really don't express their
       feeling. I don't know why. Maybe because we are humble, polite
       and patient. But I don't think that being patient is always
       good. Sometimes we need to stand up, resist and express our
       thought.
       A book "Japanese people who can't say no" became a bestseller 20
       years ago.
       Then people got to say anything what they want to do. But they
       were just complaining selfish and arrogant.
       Drawing a line between "being selfish" and "claiming properly"
       needs deep thinking.
       oh...my post sounds like a radio talk. Sorry!
       
       #Post#: 618--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: the lost minion
       Date: May 10, 2018, 3:49 am
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       --- Quote from: Allie link ---
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       > [quote author=Truman Overby link=topic=82.msg599#msg599
       date=1525890603]
       > I'm always curious to hear what others sound like. Maybe we
       all can post audio clips of ourselves.
       >
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       I am curious too! It'd be great if we could
       [/quote]
       I have something recorded but it's in Spanish.
       @Allie No, I'm not sure what you mean. Maybe it's a regional
       thing. In some regions in Poland, people sound more melodic.
       #Post#: 624--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Alharacas
       Date: May 10, 2018, 6:30 am
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       --- Quote from: Chizuko Hanji link ---
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       >
       > [quote]
       > If I had met him again, would I have had another life?
       >
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       Well, I don't know whether your life's been more or less happy,
       but you certainly would have led a miserable life with a husband
       who felt the need to correct your English before you'd even
       become more than acquaintances. Talk about being impolite!
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       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Truman Overby
       Date: May 10, 2018, 7:02 am
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       Grzybek, I've never heard a Pole speak Spanish.  ??? I'd like to
       hear it. Are you going to Mexico some day?
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       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: the lost minion
       Date: May 10, 2018, 7:22 am
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       No, too many shootings for me. I don't even go to Warsaw which
       is not that far - too many politicians per capita, you know.
       So where do we paste our links?
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       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Allie
       Date: May 10, 2018, 1:28 pm
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       >
       > So where do we paste our links?
       >
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       I thought you were the admin! Shouldn't you come up with a
       solution?
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       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Allie
       Date: May 10, 2018, 1:30 pm
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       Now seriously... a new topic in cultural miscellanea, maybe?
       It'd be fun to listen to the different accents and voices of the
       members
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       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Alharacas
       Date: May 10, 2018, 3:51 pm
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       Allie, Grzybek - done. Go to "voice recordings" under Cultural
       M. I used vocaroo, because I'm an IT-idiot and wouldn't be able
       to record anything anywhere else.
       Chizuko, what you wrote didn't sound at all like a radio talk!
       On the contrary, it's fascinating!
       --- Quote from: Chizuko Hanji link ---
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       > Drawing a line between "being selfish" and "claiming properly"
       needs deep thinking.
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       Of course, there might be a problem with first thinking through
       whether you want to say "no" because you're selfish or because
       it's important: the right moment to raise your voice may already
       have passed when you've finally made your decision. ;)
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       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: the lost minion
       Date: May 10, 2018, 4:02 pm
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       --- Quote from: Allie link ---
       >
       >
       > I thought you were the admin! Shouldn't you come up with a
       solution?
       >
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       I'm a democrat.
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