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       Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Allie
       Date: May 8, 2018, 2:54 pm
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       Is it hard to understand foreign people speaking/writing in
       English?
       Sure, there are different levels, but I am speaking in a general
       way.
       Do you have a problem with a particular accent, for example?
       Have you ever had a "traumatic" experience or been pleasantly
       surprised?
       If you're not a NES, do you notice anything particular about the
       way your compatriots express themselves in English?
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       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Allie
       Date: May 8, 2018, 3:07 pm
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       There's a book written in English called "English as she is
       spoke", by Pedro Carolino. It's regarded as a comedy book, as it
       doesn't make any sense in English.
       However, it was actually intended to be a Portuguese-English
       phrase book. The writer, who didn't speak English, used a
       French/English dictionary to write it, for he was unsatisfied
       with the guides available (he didn't understand the grammar and
       thought they were senseless!).
       Of course, when I read the book, I can understand the mistakes
       as they are the way Portuguese speakers express themselves.
       I can spot people from my country easily, as the accent is so
       characteristic, that a simple "hi" is enough to give them out.
       If that wasn't enough, they tend to say "man" and "you know" a
       lot!
       #Post#: 575--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: the lost minion
       Date: May 9, 2018, 3:39 am
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       I'm from Central-Eastern Europe (let's not discuss geography nor
       political geography here) and I usually know when I here a Pole
       speaking English. The same goes for Russians, Czechs, Slovaks
       and so on. And it's not about the mistakes because if I make
       them, I won't normally be able to detect them (as I'm unaware)
       and I can't remember the mistakes I used to make and managed to
       get rid off at some point.
       But there is something in the way we use our voices; they are
       very delicate and subtle compared to the Americans' for example.
       I don't know if you have ever listened to Lydia Machova? She's a
       perfect example. She's a polyglot but the moment she opens her
       mouth you know she's from around here. It's obvious because of
       her subtle, characteristic voice/manner of speaking.
       #Post#: 579--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Alharacas
       Date: May 9, 2018, 6:02 am
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       Allie, thank you so, so much! I'd never heard of this book, and
       it's fantastic! I'll try to comment more extensively later on,
       but I just have to open a new thread about this immediately
       (under books). I do hope you won't mind me stealing this?
       #Post#: 580--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Truman Overby
       Date: May 9, 2018, 7:34 am
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       I like to hear Brits trying to speak English. They're easy to
       spot.  ;D
       #Post#: 581--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Truman Overby
       Date: May 9, 2018, 7:39 am
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       I'm always amazed at the soft and careful manner in which
       Russian women speak English. Nearly every one I've heard speak
       English has a soft and pleasant voice and manner. Natasha {
       Natalia }  is a perfect example of this. Her voice has a
       relaxing and soothing tone. { Please don't take that as a creepy
       comment. If you hear her speak, I think you'll agree with me. }
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       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Allie
       Date: May 9, 2018, 1:18 pm
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       @Grzybek
       Yes, I know Lydia and I will probably pay more attention next
       time I speak to a Pole.
       I remember once I helped this Polish woman and she had a lovely
       accent (as Macron would say, a "delicious" one).
       The other Poles I know don't speak like her (which is a shame),
       so it may be a regional thing. It was "singsongy". Do you know
       what I am talking about?
       @Alharacas
       Sure, anytime!
       @Jerry
       What a creepy comment!
       Just joking!
       I am happy you can spot Brits, but I never heard Natalia's voice
       (or anyone's here for that matter) so I am a bit clueless.
       #Post#: 599--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Truman Overby
       Date: May 9, 2018, 1:30 pm
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       I'm always curious to hear what others sound like. Maybe we all
       can post audio clips of ourselves.
       #Post#: 602--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Allie
       Date: May 9, 2018, 2:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: Truman Overby link ---
       >
       > I'm always curious to hear what others sound like. Maybe we
       all can post audio clips of ourselves.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I am curious too! It'd be great if we could
       #Post#: 612--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Foreigners speaking English 
   DIR By: Chizuko hanji
       Date: May 10, 2018, 12:20 am
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       @Allie  @Truman
       Language geeks are creepy.
       Let me in.
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