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Have you ever thought of living in a jail? ::)
DIR By: Sudeep
Date: February 1, 2019, 4:00 am
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Okay, I admit that might sound like a stupid question, but what
made me ask this is this article I came across:
HTML https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-47033704
Maybe Chizuko can shed some light on this topic and I expect all
you to share how it is after one get retired in your countries
or states. Do their children take care of them or they are of
their own? How do they manage things if it is not affordable or
out of their reach, any government scheme that cover their
needs?
Any other info would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: Have you ever thought of living in a jail? ::)
DIR By: Pasha
Date: February 1, 2019, 6:04 am
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Apparently the prison conditions in Japan aren't bad comparing
to conditions of prisons in Post-USSR countries. That's why
getting yourself into Japanese prison maybe not that bad idea.
There is Russian comedy movie called "I want to prison" its
about guy who escapes from Russia to Netherland than commit
petty crime to get himself into Dutch prison.
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Re: Have you ever thought of living in a jail? ::)
DIR By: NealC
Date: February 1, 2019, 6:51 am
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My friend says his retirement plan (if the scratch off lottery
cards don't work out) is to throw a brick through the window of
a jewelry store, grab a couple items, and sit and wait for the
police to arrive.
Doing that in the Netherlands or Sweden might even be better.
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Re: Have you ever thought of living in a jail? ::)
DIR By: NealC
Date: February 1, 2019, 7:10 am
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Housing is so expensive in Japan, and the children that move to
the cities for employment do not have room in the small
apartments for elderly parents that need care.
A lot of it is family related and the 'social contract' inside
the family. The old sacrifice for the young, the young
eventually take care of the old. A caution amongst the old
Italians that used to sit on my grandmother's porch and gossip
was that a person needs to be a good parent, or else when they
get old no one will want to take care of them. Or they pointed
to ungrateful children who didn't take care of their parents.
That was a "disgrazia", which was pretty bad.
We took over my father's house and built an addition for him and
my mom. My wife and my older sister were primary caregivers, my
brothers lived close and visited often. This was expected.
Now that my parents are gone everyone is moving away, it is a
little bit sad. I already have plans in the next 5 years for my
son to take over this house, and me to go in the addition. His
cousin and his wife and new baby live there now.
Once I don't have the mortgage my wife and I plan to travel,
maybe live abroad, especially in the winter. I can't stand this
cold.
The circle of life :-)
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Re: Have you ever thought of living in a jail? ::)
DIR By: Truman Overby
Date: February 1, 2019, 7:54 am
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--- Quote from: Sudeep link ---
>
> Okay, I admit that might sound like a stupid question, but
what made me ask this is this article I came across:
HTML https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-47033704
> Maybe Chizuko can shed some light on this topic and I expect
all you to share how it is after one get retired in your
countries or states. Do their children take care of them or they
are of their own? How do they manage things if it is not
affordable or out of their reach, any government scheme that
cover their needs?
> Any other info would be greatly appreciated!
>
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Last year I read a story about an old guy who decided that being
in a prison or jail would be much preferable to living with his
wife. So, he went out and robbed a liquor store. He got his
wish. No reports on how he likes prison. This is called 'three
hots { hot meals } and a cot { a bed }.'
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Re: Have you ever thought of living in a jail? ::)
DIR By: SHL
Date: February 1, 2019, 12:30 pm
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Getting sent to a Norwegian jail is a bit like being on a
holiday you can`t leave. They have an nice looking island for
the worst offenders (murderers, etc), and the jails look like
chalets, with bunk beds, computers, computer games, and so on,
with a once-per-week „beer night“. And the Maximum sentence for
any crime is 30 years. Yet in spite of luxury prisons, they
seems to have a low crime rate and a safe society.
I did hear once that homeless people in Detroit in winter would
deliberately commit a small crime to be sent to jail so they had
shelter and a warm bed, which they wouldn`t have on the street.
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Re: Have you ever thought of living in a jail? ::)
DIR By: Chizuko hanji
Date: February 1, 2019, 12:53 pm
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Haha! All of you commented well before me. :D
The article says that old people become isolated and they can't
put up with loneliness so that they come back to the prison. The
children don't support or live with them. but, I think if those
old people were rich, the children wouldn't ignore them. To be
poor at old age is a problem in the first place. But it's not
always their fault. Look at the well-social welfare state like
Sweden, tax is very high but elderly people live well with
pension and young children get good welfare too.
This Japanese issue is a good example that shows capitalist
state is not perfect for all the people. Japanese government has
been put off the problem of the aging society. Now 27% of the
population is aged older 65 years old. I sometimes see a person
with gray hair who looks in his/her 70's pushing the wheelchair
of the around 90- year-old person sitting in. Japan is facing a
big problem that no countries experienced ever.
My retiring plan? Nothing. Because I won't stop working.
Many people say when they retire, they want to travel and eat
delicious healthy food to live longer. but I 'm not into
traveling or food. I don't know why I don't care. I don't know
why people care about it either.
#Post#: 11957--------------------------------------------------
Re: Have you ever thought of living in a jail? ::)
DIR By: Sudeep
Date: February 2, 2019, 2:32 am
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Thanks guys for your comments and interesting info!
Chizuko, Yes, I have read it that Japan is facing the aging
problem as not many people are interested to get married and
have kids( please correct me if I am wrong!). BTW, I came across
this article that speak of another issue which is kinda related
to this topic(especially why there is more aging population)
about the young generation having no interest in getting married
that leads to population declination or stagnation.
I have coupe of question that I got from that articles which you
may answer well:
HTML https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/07/japan-mystery-low-birth-rate/534291/
1- It is said, "Men who don’t have regular jobs are not
considered desirable marriage partners; even if a couple wants
to get married, and both have irregular jobs, their parents will
likely oppose it". So, is it still the trend for a man to do a
"regular job"(not a freeter) to get married or it is changing?
2-"Women in Japan’s big cities say they’re getting tired of the
lack of available men." What do they want exactly in a man? A
good high paying job? Or something else? And I don't understand
when it said "lack of available men". Why so? The explanation
given in the article is a bit odd for me to consider to be
right. Could you please shed some light on this?
#Post#: 11958--------------------------------------------------
Re: Have you ever thought of living in a jail? ::)
DIR By: Sudeep
Date: February 2, 2019, 2:36 am
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Steve, Yes, I have heard of some Scandinavian countries have
those kind of luxurious jail where one can find all kind of
thing(from a library to gym to game parlor etc). I think that's
a good idea or a good model of a jail to treat those prisoners
unless one is deliberately or desperately want to go their by
committing crimes:D
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Re: Have you ever thought of living in a jail? ::)
DIR By: Chizuko hanji
Date: February 3, 2019, 4:58 am
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Sudeep
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> 1- It is said, "Men who don’t have regular jobs are not
considered desirable marriage partners; even if a couple wants
to get married, and both have irregular jobs, their parents will
likely oppose it". So, is it still the trend for a man to do a
"regular job"(not a freeter) to get married or it is changing?
--- End Quote ---
Briefly and frankly speaking, who wants to marry a poor man if
she has other opportunities to get marry a rich man? It's
simple. Nobody wants to marry a poor man unless there is a true
love between them. But there are many couples whose jobs are
temporally jobs. They marry because they love each other. It
depends on people though, basically people want a stable income
when they marry. It's normal idea in Japan. Isn't it right in
other countries?
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> 2-"Women in Japan’s big cities say they’re getting tired of
the lack of available men." What do they want exactly in a man?
A good high paying job? Or something else? And I don't
understand when it said "lack of available men". Why so? The
explanation given in the article is a bit odd for me to consider
to be right. Could you please shed some light on this?
--- End Quote ---
I don't think the reason they don't marry is in women's thought.
I'm not sure the word, "available men". Maybe it means men who
have good skills and abilities to get jobs with good pay.
The problems of low birth rate is not only about Japan. Other
developed countries have same problems. France had it but I
heard they are improving the problem by reforming the child care
and welfare for babies. Bring up kids are not difficult in
France, and maybe Sweden, Norway, Netherlands and Germany,
maybe. In such countries, single parents can raise children by
help of welfare. The circumstance of raising kids is much better
than Japan. It helps for young people giving birth without
marriage.
As my conclusion, the developed country Japan does not have good
welfare for children so that young people don't want to have
babies. They don't look at any merits on both of marriage and
having babies. Low pay and poor welfare don't let them marry. If
we pay more tax, they go to elderly people's pension and their
medical insurance. Because they vote the politicians who make
their pension good. The voting numbers of old people is bigger
than young parents. When will be this problem solved? I don't
know.
Sudeep. When I see some pictures of India, I'm surprised to
always see there are lots of young people there. We don't have
many.
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