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       Organ donation: something usual in your country?
       By: Aliph Date: January 14, 2019, 7:22 am
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       When you will die, will you allow the hospital to harvest your
       organs? It seems that there is no age limit. Where I live one
       must give his consent before he dies and carry a donor card in
       his wallet.
       #Post#: 11399--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Organ donation: something usual in your country?
       By: Pasha Date: January 14, 2019, 9:32 am
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       I think it is dumb idea about asking consent to take anything
       from a rotting corpse. What is the point of it? Why  can't you
       just take anything from a rotten corpse if you find it useful?
       It is just a corpse the person is no longer exist.
       #Post#: 11400--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Organ donation: something usual in your country?
       By: Alharacas Date: January 14, 2019, 10:50 am
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       [quote author=Sofia link=topic=772.msg11398#msg11398
       date=1547472127]
       When you will die, will you allow the hospital to harvest your
       organs? It seems that there is no age limit. Where I live one
       must give his consent before he dies and carry a donor card in
       his wallet.
       [/quote]
       It's the same here in Germany. I used to think this was the
       reason it's so hard to get a transplant in Germany, but no.
       Actually, as many people are - or would be - willing to become
       organ donors in Germany as there are in Spain, for example. The
       problem is a financial one. Hospitals are supposed to be
       profitable (just writing this makes my blood pressure rise
       dramatically). And while the operation where somebody receives a
       kidney or a heart does earn money for a hospital, the operation
       where these organs are harvested does not. Now obviously, the
       number crunchers running our hospitals are far happier if one of
       their surgeons needs the operating room for a knee operation
       (whether necessary or not) than if they need it to harvest
       organs. Brilliant, isn't it? I don't know why our doctors aren't
       up in arms about this (or why they don't at least point it out
       more frequently in the newspapers). Presumably, they're far too
       busy doing well-paid, if unnecessary, knee operations.
       #Post#: 11401--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Organ donation: something usual in your country?
       By: Truman Overby Date: January 14, 2019, 12:37 pm
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       I donated an organ to my church once hoping for a tax deduction.
       The IRS disallowed it.
       #Post#: 11403--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Organ donation: something usual in your country?
       By: Alharacas Date: January 14, 2019, 1:09 pm
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       What, a whole organ, Jerry? That's one generous donation!
       #Post#: 11404--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Organ donation: something usual in your country?
       By: Truman Overby Date: January 14, 2019, 3:41 pm
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       [quote author=Alharacas link=topic=772.msg11403#msg11403
       date=1547492979]
       What, a whole organ, Jerry? That's one generous donation!
       [/quote]
       That's what I thought but the government didn't see it my way.
       :D
       #Post#: 11406--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Organ donation: something usual in your country?
       By: Nikola Date: January 14, 2019, 4:17 pm
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       That's a shame, Jerry. Had it been the Catholic Church, they
       would have been delighted to have your... eh... instrument.
       #Post#: 11408--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Organ donation: something usual in your country?
       By: Kseniia Date: January 14, 2019, 10:14 pm
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       In Russia we have an opt-out system: people are presumed to have
       given consent for donating their organs after death (brain
       death, that is) unless they record their wish to opt out.
       Basically, the same system as in Spain or Austria.
       I hadn't given it that much thought to be honest, but I suppose
       I won't really need any of my organs after death — so, assuming
       that post-mortem organ donation won't be the main reason of my
       transition to the post-mortem state (that part's important), why
       not prolong another person's life?
       By the way, what's your own answer to your question, Sofia?
       #Post#: 11409--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Organ donation: something usual in your country?
       By: NealC Date: January 15, 2019, 4:30 am
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       My wife once gave me some beautiful roses for Valentine's day,
       and she set them on the piano.  It was such an extravagant gift
       - roses on Valentine's Day can easily go for over $100/dozen!
       So I told her that in the future, in order to save money,
       instead of Roses on the piano I would much prefer Tulips on the
       Organ.
       Unfortunately she keeps buying me flowers.
       #Post#: 11410--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Organ donation: something usual in your country?
       By: Aliph Date: January 15, 2019, 6:40 am
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       [quote author=Kseniia link=topic=772.msg11408#msg11408
       date=1547525646]
       In Russia we have an opt-out system: people are presumed to have
       given consent for donating their organs after death (brain
       death, that is) unless they record their wish to opt out.
       Basically, the same system as in Spain or Austria.
       (...)
       By the way, what's your own answer to your question, Sofia?
       [/quote]
       I think the Spanish/Austrian/Russian system is the good one. In
       Switzerland there is still the opt-in system, if you want to be
       considered a post mortem donor you have to register while still
       alive.
       Now there is an initiative for inscribing in the constitution
       that everyone could be eligible unless he declares that he
       doesn’t want it.
       For me it is clear that I do not care what will happen to my
       body once my heart stopps to beat and my brean brain is dead. If
       any part of it can help somebody in need of a transplant I am
       happy to help.
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