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#Post#: 10151--------------------------------------------------
Re: Marriage--Should it be a choice or a milestone set by our so
cieties?
By: Alharacas Date: December 11, 2018, 5:28 pm
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[quote author=Sudeep link=topic=684.msg10139#msg10139
date=1544545331]
Instead of going through all those steps, I think it is better
to stay a quirkyalone ;D
[/quote]
Having been through steps 1 - 5 more times than I would like to
admit, by now I completely agree with you, Sudeep.
And whether you're lonely in old age is also optional, at least
to a large extent, as far as I can see. I mean, this is
obviously purely anecdotal evidence, and there may be tons of
wonderful, lovely, lovable and also terribly lonely old people
around. It's just that so far, I've never met any. What I've met
were sociable, cheerful, friendly old people, interested in
everything and everyone, and if they needed any heavy shopping
done, curtains put up, lightbulbs changed, there were young(er)
people positively queuing up to do it for them. I've also met
grumpy, egotistical old people of the "I don't know what the
world is coming to, these young people nowadays, no manners, no
social skills, no nothing! Now, do let's talk exclusively about
all the gruesome illnesses I and all of my family have gone
through in our lives"-variety, and yes, some of those do tend to
be rather lonely.
#Post#: 10157--------------------------------------------------
Re: Marriage--Should it be a choice or a milestone set by our so
cieties?
By: SHL Date: December 12, 2018, 1:49 am
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Marriage is nice, especially as you get older. When you`re
younger you need marriage to have kids, or you`re better off
with it for the kid`s sake, because I believe that kids do
better in households where people are married, at least for a
while. But, it`s nice when you get older too. (That Neal found a
woman to put up with him, from a religious website for what, 12
years or something, in itself amazing. Boy, what a test of
patience that would be :))
And Neal says if I know some German lady who thought the DDR
wasn�t so bad, and likes me, she should be able to put up with
me for a few years? A few years! It`s a lot longer than that my
friend. Well, there`s a lot of them out there, Neal, not just
the lady I know, and �putting up� me is not hard. It�s an
adventure. Neal, you see, knowing me is a like a quest for
wisdom, and knowledge, it`s a true adventure.
The problem is as you get older the family gets old and dies
off, the siblings get old, and have their own families, so the
whole thing can get pretty lonely without someone around who
cares. Living on frozen dinners gets old after a while.
Actually, I do sort of what the Germans do. I have coffee, bread
and marmalade in the morning, a hot lunch at noon, and then a
light dinner in the evenings with that heavy German Rye bread
and cold cuts. That`s usually how it goes. Then I have my
Sprudel, carbonated mineral water in the evenings with it (the
closest thing I could find in the US is Perrier water). Then I`m
good for the evening, watch of the German Helen Dorn series,
Nord Nord Mord, my favorite, or Ein Starkes Team on ZDF before
bed and I`m good to go.
But we all need the companionship. That`s for sure. No one wants
to be alone for too long. We `re social creatures.
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Re: Marriage--Should it be a choice or a milestone set by our so
cieties?
By: NealC Date: December 12, 2018, 4:05 am
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[quote author=SHL link=topic=684.msg10157#msg10157
date=1544600979]
�putting up� me is not hard. It�s an adventure. Neal, you see,
knowing me is a like a quest for wisdom, and knowledge, it`s a
true adventure.
[/quote]
Yes, I certainly agree that knowing you involves a long and
often fruitless search for knowledge and wisdom.
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Re: Marriage--Should it be a choice or a milestone set by our so
cieties?
By: Alharacas Date: December 12, 2018, 6:10 am
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Steven, on the whole I agree that marriage is better if you have
children.
But being married is no guarantee for not being lonely when
you're old: my mother kept telling me how I needed to get
married so I wouldn't have to grow old alone (heavens, what a
depressing reason!). I notice how she's grown pretty silent on
the issue, though, as she's been widowed for 7 years now.
Having good friends is probably a better solution. :)
Plus, you know, it depends: apparently, married men live longer
than bachelors, but wives tend to die sooner than unmarried
women, so...
Source:
HTML https://www.focus.de/gesundheit/gesundleben/vorsorge/news/lebenserwartung_aid_105678.html
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Re: Marriage--Should it be a choice or a milestone set by our so
cieties?
By: Aliph Date: December 12, 2018, 7:41 am
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[quote author=Alharacas link=topic=684.msg10166#msg10166
date=1544616632]
apparently, married men live longer than bachelors, but wives
tend to die sooner than unmarried women, so...
Source:
HTML https://www.focus.de/gesundheit/gesundleben/vorsorge/news/lebenserwartung_aid_105678.html
[/quote]
I never was really convinced about the accuracy of this study
who was published 12 years ago.
Those statistical studies often are generalizing things.
I know elder men who take care of their younger wives who are
either physically or mentally impaired. I also know more widows
than widowers.
Generally speaking, the chance not to be alone is bigger if you
have a big circle of friends, if one dies you still have others.
Can�t do that with a husband. Poligamy is forbidden in Europe
;D
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Re: Marriage--Should it be a choice or a milestone set by our so
cieties?
By: SHL Date: December 12, 2018, 1:01 pm
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[quote author=NealC link=topic=684.msg10161#msg10161
date=1544609110]
[quote author=SHL link=topic=684.msg10157#msg10157
date=1544600979]
�putting up� me is not hard. It�s an adventure. Neal, you see,
knowing me is a like a quest for wisdom, and knowledge, it`s a
true adventure.
[/quote]
Yes, I certainly agree that knowing you involves a long and
often fruitless search for knowledge and wisdom.
[/quote]
Neal, you have to omit the �long and often fruitless� part of
your response to earn an agree check from anyone on the board.
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Re: Marriage--Should it be a choice or a milestone set by our so
cieties?
By: Sudeep Date: December 12, 2018, 10:37 pm
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[quote author=Alharacas link=topic=684.msg10166#msg10166
date=1544616632]
Plus, you know, it depends: apparently, married men live longer
than bachelors, but wives tend to die sooner than unmarried
women, so...
Source:
HTML https://www.focus.de/gesundheit/gesundleben/vorsorge/news/lebenserwartung_aid_105678.html
[/quote]
Now, I am confused ;D But who wants to live for a century anyway
;)
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Re: Marriage--Should it be a choice or a milestone set by our so
cieties?
By: SHL Date: December 13, 2018, 1:40 am
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@Sudeep,
Well my grandmother always said she never wanted to live to be
100. When I asked her why, she just said it was too old. Then
she went on to live to be 100 and 3 months. And, without and
health problems of any kind in her life. So, anyway, I hope I
have some of her good genes.
@ Neal
You just don`t appreaciate the kind of superlative mind I have
here at work for me, with my thoughtful insights, political
commentary inspiried by Liberation News and Die Bild-Zeitung.
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Re: Marriage--Should it be a choice or a milestone set by our so
cieties?
By: NealC Date: December 13, 2018, 4:03 am
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That must be it.
Now only if we could get you married off so you will live
longer.
Preferably in another country.
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Re: Marriage--Should it be a choice or a milestone set by our so
cieties?
By: Aliph Date: December 13, 2018, 5:44 am
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[quote author=NealC link=topic=684.msg10185#msg10185
date=1544695394]
That must be it.
Now only if we could get you married off so you will live
longer.
Preferably in another country.
[/quote]
No kidding, I checked if there was a marxist-leninist Tinder
(auf Deutsch selbstverst�ndlich) but didn't find any. There are
dating sites for Christians, Muslims but no ML! I think true ML
consider marriage a filthy bourgeois institution and religion,
like Karl Marx said, � opium for the people�.
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