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Re: Online Chinese censorship, once again! (If anybody is intere
sted. Maybe Marmolada?)
By: Nikola Date: December 7, 2018, 5:27 am
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You're right, SHL. China uses all the worst communist and
capitalistic tools that allow it to walk all over people.
However, unlike a purely communist country, it manages to make
something out of it. Basically, they created an ugly political
monster.
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Re: Online Chinese censorship, once again! (If anybody is intere
sted. Maybe Marmolada?)
By: NealC Date: December 7, 2018, 6:37 am
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SHL, vanquisher of strawmen, slaughterer of inventions of his
own imagination, has once again triumphed!
Man needs to be governed by laws, as he can take anything good
and turn it to evil. There is no capitalist state that has not
outlawed the trade in human organs, it takes place in this
communist Frankenstein's monster known as China. I would submit
to you that it is the communist atheistic moral combined with a
deliciously eastern (non-Christian) disregard for human life
that makes this possible.
If you want to speak about the real differences between freedom
loving and communist countries why dont we talk about what takes
place in every communist hellhole the world over, the
imprisonment (and often torture) of political prisoners? A lot
more common (ubiquitous in communist countries) than the trade
in human organs.
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Re: Online Chinese censorship, once again! (If anybody is intere
sted. Maybe Marmolada?)
By: SHL Date: December 7, 2018, 12:07 pm
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[quote author=NealC link=topic=668.msg10001#msg10001
date=1544186241]
SHL, vanquisher of strawmen, slaughterer of inventions of his
own imagination, has once again triumphed!
Man needs to be governed by laws, as he can take anything good
and turn it to evil. There is no capitalist state that has not
outlawed the trade in human organs, it takes place in this
communist Frankenstein's monster known as China. I would submit
to you that it is the communist atheistic moral combined with a
deliciously eastern (non-Christian) disregard for human life
that makes this possible.
If you want to speak about the real differences between freedom
loving and communist countries why dont we talk about what takes
place in every communist hellhole the world over, the
imprisonment (and often torture) of political prisoners? A lot
more common (ubiquitous in communist countries) than the trade
in human organs.
[/quote]
Neal
Any country can call itself anything it wants, „communist“,
„socialist“, „democratic“ anything and that doesn`t make it
such.
China is a totalitarian capitalist state. It is the polar
opposite of communism or socialism as you can get, and it`s
obvious. It´s disregard for human rights is a product of its
capitalist economic model. It`s just the natural result of it.
Capitalism breds a „dog-eat-dog“ society where everyone thinks,
„I`m looking out for myself.“ It´s a 100% selfish philosophy.
The rich upper class capitalist Chinese society is fueling this
atrocity because it needs life-saving organ transplants and the
supply is short, and for them, money is no object. And with
capitalism, their morals have been thrown in into the trash
dumpster. This happens as a natural result of capitalism and has
nothing to do with religion at all.
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Re: Online Chinese censorship, once again! (If anybody is intere
sted. Maybe Marmolada?)
By: NealC Date: December 7, 2018, 12:45 pm
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China remains far more Communist in its politics than
capitalist, and Communism is the root of their lack of human
rights. Yes, I know the whole defense of socialism/communism
that "so far no one has done it right". If only they would do
it right we would usher in utopia! They will never do it right
because it cannot be done right. Not with the condition of the
heart of man.
Capitalism is an economic model and it can be associated with a
totalitarian state, but normally it is not. To say that the
violation of human rights is not typical of the Communist system
is an utter fantasy. Maybe you can run that by your little
playmates over at that commie crayon newsletter you like so much
but that statement is willfully ignorant of world history.
Perhaps they would let you write for them on a permanent basis!
It would be good to get the publishing credits.
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Re: Online Chinese censorship, once again! (If anybody is intere
sted. Maybe Marmolada?)
By: SHL Date: December 7, 2018, 3:45 pm
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[quote author=NealC link=topic=668.msg10012#msg10012
date=1544208324]
China remains far more Communist in its politics than
capitalist, and Communism is the root of their lack of human
rights. Yes, I know the whole defense of socialism/communism
that "so far no one has done it right". If only they would do
it right we would usher in utopia! They will never do it right
because it cannot be done right. Not with the condition of the
heart of man.
Capitalism is an economic model and it can be associated with a
totalitarian state, but normally it is not. To say that the
violation of human rights is not typical of the Communist system
is an utter fantasy. Maybe you can run that by your little
playmates over at that commie crayon newsletter you like so much
but that statement is willfully ignorant of world history.
Perhaps they would let you write for them on a permanent basis!
It would be good to get the publishing credits.
[/quote]
Commie crayon newsletter? My, that´s a little harsh.
No, I`d rather utilize my creative writing talents and keen
insight writing for a German paper so I can get my residency
rights over there.
But, in all honesty, China is no more „communist“ than Indiana.
In fact, probably less so. I can`t imagine a better example of a
true and pure capitalist society than China. They are communist
in name only. They`ve long ceased having the slightest
resemblance to a socialist society, not once their greed took
over on the world market. And, yes they are worse than most
capitalist societies because they are the most devoid of
socialism.
The „I`m looking out for myself“ mentality is classic capitalism
at its finest.
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