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More news from the Communist Workers Paradise
By: NealC Date: December 3, 2018, 10:01 am
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And Fidel promised in 1959 the Workers Paradise would rebuild
Havana...
HTML https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/12/02/havana-cuba-collapsing-buildings-housing-unesco/1998606002/
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Re: More news from the Communist Workers Paradise
By: SHL Date: December 3, 2018, 3:26 pm
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[quote author=NealC link=topic=658.msg9861#msg9861
date=1543852862]
And Fidel promised in 1959 the Workers Paradise would rebuild
Havana...
HTML https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/12/02/havana-cuba-collapsing-buildings-housing-unesco/1998606002/
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Neal, please. A few crumbling old buildings because of 59 years
of a ridiculous US embargo which unsuccessfully tried to starve
out the country, a country that the US tried unsuccessfully and
repeatedly to overthrow through the CIA? What do you expect? You
can do better than that.
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Re: More news from the Communist Workers Paradise
By: NealC Date: December 3, 2018, 4:52 pm
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What I expect is a vibrant economy making investments and
building new space. But that doesn't seem to be possible in the
workers paradise. What have they built since the 1950's?
The only thing we did was halt trading with us, they traded with
everyone else in the world. And yet the government planned
economy could make nothing, not even out of tobacco, sugar, and
until recently, tourism.
Epic Fail
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Re: More news from the Communist Workers Paradise
By: SHL Date: December 3, 2018, 9:49 pm
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[quote author=NealC link=topic=658.msg9867#msg9867
date=1543877571]
What I expect is a vibrant economy making investments and
building new space. But that doesn't seem to be possible in the
workers paradise. What have they built since the 1950's?
The only thing we did was halt trading with us, they traded with
everyone else in the world. And yet the government planned
economy could make nothing, not even out of tobacco, sugar, and
until recently, tourism.
Epic Fail
[/quote]
Neal,
What happened was that the USSR bankrolled Cuba, until the USSR
went down the drain (and don`t tell me that that senile old fool
Reagan had anything to do with it with his dumb “take down this
wall” speech). This caused the Cuban economy to hit the skids
because the USA, the bully-on-the-block, the Schulhof-Rabauke,
only 90 miles away, had been trying to destroy the Cuban economy
unsuccessfully for 30 years. The loss of aid from the USSR
pushed them into an economic crises for a decade or so, and then
they recovered.
So, it turned out with a few buildings in need of repair. Well,
with a neighbor like the US that won`t respect its sovereignty
what would you expect? Who`d want a neighbor like that? Geez.
And one with nukes.
#Post#: 9879--------------------------------------------------
Re: More news from the Communist Workers Paradise
By: NealC Date: December 3, 2018, 11:24 pm
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Some 3,856 partial or total building collapses were reported in
Havana from 2000 to 2013, not including 2010 and 2011 when no
records were kept.
The collapses worsened an already severe housing shortage.
Havana alone had a deficit of 206,000 homes in 2016, official
figures show.
The housing crisis is one of the most pressing challenges facing
Cuban President Miguel Díaz-Canel, who vowed to improve housing
after taking charge of the communist nation of 11 million people
in April.
Just a"few buildings"? Keep dreaming.
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Re: More news from the Communist Workers Paradise
By: SHL Date: December 3, 2018, 11:38 pm
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Yeah, and why doesn`t the US come in and give them some aid,
like they would any neighbor?
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Re: More news from the Communist Workers Paradise
By: NealC Date: December 3, 2018, 11:52 pm
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I would imagine we are still a little upset about the billions
Cuba stole in their expropriation and nationalization of
American businesses in 1959.
Why is it that Cuba only survived due to Soviet handouts? Why
do they need aid at all? Why isn't the workers paradise of
government planning and collective labor generating enough
wealth to provide basic housing? Or was Thatcher right - it all
works fine until you run out of other people's money?
It is interesting to me that Communist countries all seem to
fall flat on their face in the basic housing sector.
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Re: More news from the Communist Workers Paradise
By: SHL Date: December 4, 2018, 12:31 pm
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[quote author=NealC link=topic=658.msg9882#msg9882
date=1543902778]
I would imagine we are still a little upset about the billions
Cuba stole in their expropriation and nationalization of
American businesses in 1959.
Why is it that Cuba only survived due to Soviet handouts? Why
do they need aid at all? Why isn't the workers paradise of
government planning and collective labor generating enough
wealth to provide basic housing? Or was Thatcher right - it all
works fine until you run out of other people's money.
It is interesting to me that Communist countries all seem to
fall flat on their face in the basic housing sector.
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I`m not shedding any tears for the “billions Cuba stole in their
expropriation and nationalization of American business in 1959.”
I wish they had taken more.
That`s the risk the “good” businessman makes by putting his
investment in other counties. And many Cubans weren`t too happy
with that old coward and dictator Bautista that the CIA
installed as their preferred leader in a country whose affairs
the US had no business in meddling in in the first place.
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Re: More news from the Communist Workers Paradise
By: NealC Date: December 4, 2018, 2:20 pm
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Non-responsive, counselor. Try to actually answer the
questions.
They are the sentences that end with this mark -- ?
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Re: More news from the Communist Workers Paradise
By: SHL Date: December 4, 2018, 3:45 pm
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No it´s not non-responsive. It`s asked and answered.
I already explained:
“A few crumbling old buildings because of 59 years of a
ridiculous US embargo which unsuccessfully tried to starve out
the country, a country that the US tried unsuccessfully and
repeatedly to overthrow through the CIA? What do you expect? You
can do better than that.”
The US did it with the embargo. Asked and answered, that`s the
objection you use if the question is repeated. (Gee, I didn’t
think we were in court.)
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