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       #Post#: 9885--------------------------------------------------
       Re: World map of racism
       By: Alharacas Date: December 4, 2018, 3:31 am
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       Thank you for the detailed answer, Sudeep!
       So, do you think people understood "caste" instead of "race",
       when they were asked whether they'd mind having a neighbour from
       a different race?
       The way you describe it, the quota system is unfair, yes. But
       presumably, it was introduced to provide equal opportunity for
       the members of lower castes? If it were abolished, wouldn't that
       just mean things reverting to "normal", i.e. members of the
       higher castes getting all the good jobs? How would you go about
       ensuring the different castes got equal opportunity if it were
       up to you?
       #Post#: 9892--------------------------------------------------
       Re: World map of racism
       By: Allie Date: December 4, 2018, 6:26 am
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       As pointed out by the OP herself, it’s difficult to draw clearer
       conclusions without knowing how they got their data and the
       criteria used.
       Other members mentioned also that there may be other things in
       question to be considered.
       Race is a complicated thing in Brazil.
       So, as I don’t intend to begin a Brazilian History class, what I
       can say is that Brazil is a melting pot. When talking about
       Brazilian people, we are talking about a mix in different
       proportions of White, Black and Native American blood that runs
       in the veins of the vast majority of the population. So you can
       claim any race (it happens)
       Besides, back in the colonial days, there was a sense of “us”
       and “them”, but with time we’ve embraced diversity and we’re all
       Brazilians, in inspite of the part of the country we are from,
       culture, appearance, etc. We don’t give much importance to
       ancestry nowadays - unless you’re Italian. Italians love to
       boast they “italianess”
       The definition of “race” is blurred there. In the same family,
       you can have people that consider themselves
       “white”/“black”(even if not perceived by society as such).
       However, there are still cases of racism, even though it's not
       usually open (racism is a crime in Brazil).
       By the way, according to Wikipedia, the distribution of the
       population is 47.73% white, 43.13% pardo, 7.61% back, 1.09%
       Asian, 0.43% Amerindian. From what I read, the research took
       into consideration the participants’ response as to their
       perception of their own race (it’s not taking any kind of DNA or
       family tree in consideration)
       #Post#: 9897--------------------------------------------------
       Re: World map of racism
       By: NealC Date: December 4, 2018, 7:09 am
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       The U.S. did well, which is as I deep down suspected.  By making
       race a national topic, a slew of legislation, and a lot of basic
       social work racism has been vastly reduced in this country, even
       in the space of my own lifetime.
       Just don't tell the racist agitators whose jobs and power lie in
       their ability to rouse the rabble.
       #Post#: 9901--------------------------------------------------
       Re: World map of racism
       By: Sudeep Date: December 4, 2018, 9:34 am
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       [quote author=Alharacas link=topic=643.msg9885#msg9885
       date=1543915883]
       Thank you for the detailed answer, Sudeep!
       So, do you think people understood "caste" instead of "race",
       when they were asked whether they'd mind having a neighbor from
       a different race?
       The way you describe it, the quota system is unfair, yes. But
       presumably, it was introduced to provide equal opportunity for
       the members of lower castes? If it were abolished, wouldn't that
       just mean things reverting to "normal", i.e. members of the
       higher castes getting all the good jobs? How would you go about
       ensuring the different castes got equal opportunity if it were
       up to you?
       [/quote]
       Susanne, in India most of the people are more familiar with the
       word caste than the word race because you can easily guess an
       Indian even if he belongs to the North/South/east/West(with some
       exception for the north-easterners who are quite often mistaken
       as Chinese due to their facial feature). So, if you ask any
       Indian about their race, they may get confused(even I would!:D),
       but if you ask them their caste, they may tell you without
       confusion. It is even easy to know what caste a person belongs
       to only by knowing their last name.So, caste play an important
       role here in India rather than race.
       India is not like European countries where people want to come
       as an immigrant, nor India can afford to give them shelter and
       other necessary thing. So, you can't see India as a racially
       diverse country but in other field it is very diverse.
       Susanne, you are completely right about the introduction of
       quota system. When India got independence, the law makers
       thought to introduce it to uplift those who are financially and
       socially backward and later they had a plan to remove this once
       the job is done, but it has become a never ending thread.
       Politicians use it for vote bank policy. And those who come
       under this quota system don't want to give it up even if they
       are now financially stable and living a great life. I have no
       problem if the government provides them with free study or other
       facilities but helping them in every step of their life even for
       getting a job is like making them lazy and stopping them from
       knowing their own potential. I don't know when it is going to
       end, but if it does and government only help them who are
       financially backward or who are cut off from the mainstream,
       then it would be appreciated, I think.
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