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Dog stuff
By: Nikola Date: November 24, 2018, 11:51 am
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Is the term "b i t c h" still acceptable among professional dog
breeders? Can we refer to our female dogs as "our bitches" on
our website? It looks so wrong.
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Re: Dog stuff
By: Alharacas Date: November 24, 2018, 1:20 pm
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Ha! Thanks for making me find out about this, Nikola: I got
about 5 million results for "dog breeder b*tch" on google, but 8
million for "dog breeder dam". Now we know. :)
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Re: Dog stuff
By: SHL Date: November 24, 2018, 3:07 pm
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@Nikola
That`s not a bad question. I personally prefer to limit the
b*itch word to its derogatory meaning only and not use it as it
pertains to dog breeding. Even though I`m not in the business, I
would personally select a word that`s sort of innocuous like
„the female“ of the breed, or something. But, I knew a dog
breeder in the 90s, who was a friend of mine, and he always used
the word b*itch to just describe his female breeding dogs all
the time and he used the word like it was nothing. The word does
sound a bit odd, frankly, to use even in dog breeding to me
anyway. That`s why I avoid it. But, then that`s just me.
Alharacas ´ easy google search seemed to answer the question.
But, I have to admit I`ve never heard the word „dam“ before
regarding dogs. It´s a good question for my 90-year old mom. She
likes questions like this (she `s even got weird expressions out
of the 1930s I`ve never heard of, like „truck farm“. Like what
is THAT?)
I`ve heard of a sire and a dam, as it relates to other animals
(maybe horses?) but that´s about it.
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Re: Dog stuff
By: Nikola Date: November 24, 2018, 3:29 pm
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@Alharacas
Thank you. It would have helped if I'd known the word "dam"
existed. I knew it meant a thing that holds back water but
wasn't aware of this meaning. Did you look it up or did you know
it because you've heard people use it?
@SHL
Thanks, this was exactly my concern - that the b word doesn't
sound right. My parents use the word "čuba" in Czech, it's
also considered rude outside the dog context. And they also say
it like it's nothing. So you've never heard anyone refer to a
female dog as dam...
Yeah and what is a truck farm? :)
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Re: Dog stuff
By: SHL Date: November 24, 2018, 4:08 pm
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[quote author=Nikola link=topic=641.msg9508#msg9508
date=1543094993]
@Alharacas
Thank you. It would have helped if I'd known the word "dam"
existed. I knew it meant a thing that holds back water but
wasn't aware of this meaning. Did you look it up or did you know
it because you've heard people use it?
@SHL
Thanks, this was exactly my concern - that the b word doesn't
sound right. My parents use the word "čuba" in Czech, it's
also considered rude outside the dog context. And they also say
it like it's nothing. So you've never heard anyone refer to a
female dog as dam...
Yeah and what is a truck farm? :)
[/quote]
My mom told me a „truck farm“ was a farm with Equipment like
Trucks on it or something. It`s an archaic expression that she`s
heard of. I never had.
I feel weird about referring to a female dog used for breeding
as a b*tch. It´s too strongly associated with the pejorative
word for a woman.
Hence, I substitute another word (not dam) but „female“ instead.
It seems easy and to-the-point. I`ve only heard „dam“ used in
conjunction with „sire“ and that has to do with horses, BUT, now
that I think of it, when dog breeders use genealogy charts to
show dog pedigrees, my friend who raised dogs, used to point to
who was the „sire“ and who was the „dam“, so I think Alharacas
is right in a sense. It`s just that the word „dam“ is used in
pedigree charts. Like „Okay. The sire was Sir Francis in this
pedigree. Who`s the dam?“
Hope this helps.
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Re: Dog stuff
By: NealC Date: November 24, 2018, 4:17 pm
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A truck farm is a farm not built on monoculture, it is not a
farm with 300 acres of corn. It is usually smaller acreage with
a variety of crops sold within truck delivery distance. Focus
is on fresh (greens, lettuce) or stuff that doesn't transport
well (tomatoes, peppers, eggplants). My farm would qualify.
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Re: Dog stuff
By: Nikola Date: November 24, 2018, 4:40 pm
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@SHL
It is very helpful, thank you.
@Neal
Thanks, I just impressed my British friend with my knowledge of
farming terminology. She didn't see that one coming!
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Re: Dog stuff
By: SHL Date: November 24, 2018, 5:04 pm
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[quote author=NealC link=topic=641.msg9514#msg9514
date=1543097828]
A truck farm is a farm not built on monoculture, it is not a
farm with 300 acres of corn. It is usually smaller acreage with
a variety of crops sold within truck delivery distance. Focus
is on fresh (greens, lettuce) or stuff that doesn't transport
well (tomatoes, peppers, eggplants). My farm would qualify.
[/quote]
Thanks for the explanation, Neal.
My mom mentioned that expression „truck farm“ only a month ago
or so and I have never heard that in my life. But, your
description of it fits well into why my mom would know the term.
My grandfather (the „old German“ he used to be called), my mom`s
dad, was a farmer and had 66 acres of fruit trees. Apricots and
stuff like that. And he`d bring it in on a truck to be shipped
back east. He had other kinds of trees but I don`t know what
kind they were. Sort of makes sense. I guess he had a „truck
farm“ but I had never heard that expression before. My hunch is
it is pretty out-dated or limited to the farming industry.
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Re: Dog stuff
By: NealC Date: November 24, 2018, 5:10 pm
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Outdated really. Just like most of us truck farmers.
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Re: Dog stuff
By: SHL Date: November 24, 2018, 5:11 pm
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Nikola,
I hope it helped. The word „dam“ I suppose is not used in the
actual breeding process of pedigree dogs, and b*tch is instead,
but when you are showing a prospective buyer of a pedigree dog
the dog`s pedigree chart you`d use sire and dam. I doubt anyone
would ask „Who was the b*tch over here on the chart?“ That would
definitely sound weird. It`s possible I suppose, but I would
highly doubt that anyone in the business uses the word in that
context.
Now that I think about it, it`s kind of funny. I vaguely recall
visiting this friend of mine back in the 90s and he had a couple
of prospective buyers looking at a dog, and he was showing them
the pedigree chart. I think the customer sounded really dumb, as
did his his wife, who asked, „gee, who`s the dog´s mom and dad
over here?“ I guess if you want to sound like a 10 year old you
might say that.
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