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       #Post#: 9046--------------------------------------------------
       Chi parla italiano?
       By: Aliph Date: November 9, 2018, 4:23 pm
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       In primavera c‘erano ancora Martin, Coligno e KS che parlavano
       italiano. Adesso son spariti tutti. KS francamente non è una
       gran perdita.
       Neal fa il timido e non si azzarda a scrivere neanche una
       parola. Peccato.
       Chissà, fra i nuovi membri c’e qualcuno che impara la lingua di
       Dante?
       #Post#: 9048--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chi parla italiano?
       By: SHL Date: November 9, 2018, 4:39 pm
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       Neal, go to work on this one cause I can understand a word of
       it.
       I do know it`s Italian because I got the Italiano part. :)
       #Post#: 9049--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chi parla italiano?
       By: Aliph Date: November 9, 2018, 4:52 pm
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       [quote author=SHL link=topic=599.msg9048#msg9048
       date=1541803171]
       Neal, go to work on this one cause I can understand a word of
       it.
       I do know it`s Italian because if got the Italiano part. :)
       [/quote]
       Don’t you have Google Translate in California  ::) ?
       Yes, I hope Neal will try a little bit. And maybe there are new
       members, or old ones come back.
       #Post#: 9052--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chi parla italiano?
       By: NealC Date: November 9, 2018, 6:12 pm
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       IO!  IO parlo un po' d'italiano!  La bella lingua!  Voglio
       imparare piu'!
       Grazie SHL e Sofia, your encouragement has moved me!
       Reading the above without Google (Io promeso!)
       In the spring you had several people to write to in Italian, now
       there is just you.  Losing one in particular was not a big loss
       :-)
       Neal is timid (what is e non si azzarda) and doesnt write a
       word.  How sad
       Not sure how the last line goes, but is it -- Do we have to get
       new members to get someone who wants to learn the language of
       Dante?
       I have heard Chissa, before, what is it?
       #Post#: 9053--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chi parla italiano?
       By: Alharacas Date: November 9, 2018, 6:16 pm
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       Entiendo (sólo tuve que mirar lo que quiere decir "chissà" y
       "fra"), pero no voy a masacrar tu lengua materna intentando
       escribirla. :)
       Por lo que sepa, Nikola está aprendiendo el italiano.
       #Post#: 9055--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chi parla italiano?
       By: SHL Date: November 9, 2018, 8:21 pm
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       [quote author=NealC link=topic=599.msg9052#msg9052
       date=1541808728]
       IO!  IO parlo un po' d'italiano!  La bella lingua!  Voglio
       imparare piu'!
       Grazie SHL e Sofia, your encouragement has moved me!
       Reading the above without Google (Io promeso!)
       In the spring you had several people to write to in Italian, now
       there is just you.  Losing one in particular was not a big loss
       :-)
       Neal is timid (what is e non si azzarda) and doesnt write a
       word.  How sad
       Not sure how the last line goes, but is it -- Do we have to get
       new members to get someone who wants to learn the language of
       Dante?
       I have heard Chissa, before, what is it?
       [/quote]
       Good job Neal (and Alharacas too, whatever you said). It´s
       always refreshing to find a fellow American who can speak at
       least one foreign language.
       @Sophia,
       I woundn`t call Neal exactly „shy“ (what do we say, a „shrinking
       violet“?) but he does pretty good with his Italian. Just keep at
       him about it.
       And google translate is not that great. I`ve used it but it
       doesn’t know idioms, and we use them a lot in US English, and
       just gives you gibberish translations. It`s fine for „I have a
       dog“ but I wouldn’t trust it for much else. I wouldn’t recommend
       using it at the UN in discussing nuclear disarmament. The world
       might end of getting blow up over a bad translation.
       #Post#: 9056--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chi parla italiano?
       By: Aliph Date: November 10, 2018, 1:39 am
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       [quote author=NealC link=topic=599.msg9052#msg9052
       date=1541808728]
       IO!  IO parlo un po' d'italiano!  La bella lingua!  Voglio
       imparare piu'!
       Grazie SHL e Sofia, your encouragement has moved me!
       Reading the above without Google (Io promeso!)
       Neal is timid (what is e non si azzarda) and doesnt write a
       word.  How sad
       Not sure how the last line goes, but is it --
       I have heard Chissa, before, what is it?
       [/quote]
       Neal bravissimo. Complimenti. Te la sei cavata abbastanza bene.
       Chissà = is a contraction of chi (who) + sa (knows) and becomes
       an adverb that means doubt or at least interrogation. Here it
       could be translated by maybe.
       Maybe you heard the idiom “si crede chissà chi!” = he believes
       to be special = he thinks he is better than anybody else.
       #Post#: 9058--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chi parla italiano?
       By: Alharacas Date: November 10, 2018, 2:56 am
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       Sofia, let's see if I got that right: "non si azzarda" means
       "(he) doesn't dare", and the root is the same as for "hazard",
       correct?
       #Post#: 9059--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chi parla italiano?
       By: Nikola Date: November 10, 2018, 5:53 am
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       Ciao a tutti! Parlo male italiano, ma parlo!
       Also, can't resist using exclamation marks, they go so well with
       the language.
       #Post#: 9060--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chi parla italiano?
       By: Aliph Date: November 10, 2018, 6:19 am
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       [quote author=Alharacas link=topic=599.msg9058#msg9058
       date=1541840192]
       Sofia, let's see if I got that right: "non si azzarda" means
       "(he) doesn't dare", and the root is the same as for "hasard",
       correct?
       [/quote]
       Yes. You are totally right. The root must be Arabic. It comes
       probably from the word used for dices
       زَهْرُ
       النَّرْدِ
       (Larousse Dictionnaire francais arabe). It is not confirmed by
       the Langenscheidt. I will check later on some books about Arabic
       etimologies. Zahara mens also to shine. See the University of al
       Azhar in Cairo.
       Oh do not send me on this path, it is one of my passion!
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