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       What is considered underdressed in your country?
       By: Allie Date: May 3, 2018, 5:40 am
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       I'd say we are quite informal where I am from. Going to work in
       jeans is common.
       However, we usually say you have to be "presentable" in daily
       situations, which basically means you can wear everything other
       than loungewear, pyjamas or sportswears, as long you don't look
       unkempt.
       I used to go jogging in the park and, I'd feel extremely
       embarrassed as people could see me with messy hair and wearing
       sportswear.
       Then I moved countries and I was shocked with the number of
       people I saw wearing sports clothing. At first, I honestly
       assumed that people here are more athletic and everybody goes to
       the gym. Later, I realised people just wear the clothes, it
       doesn't mean they do any kind of sports! Sportswear is just more
       "acceptable" here.
       How does it work in your country?
       (Discussion inspired by Natalia)
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       Re: What is considered underdressed in your country?
       By: nataliestpete Date: May 3, 2018, 7:28 am
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       Oh, it’s my pain. And it’s not about jeans, just in
       case:)
       I think a style of clothing depends on many factors: where do
       you live in Russia,what  do you do for living, your background
       and upbringing.  St Pete, Moscow, Nizhniy Novgorod,
       Ekaterinburg, Novosibirsk and other large cities is one story,
       while small towns is totally different. Or if you are IT
       specialists, it’s not necessarily  to be dressed in smart
       casual style.
       Another factor, which I consider to be as a negative one (in
       this case, not in general), is globalization and migration. I
       watch this situation in St Petersburg ( the cultural capital of
       Russia).
       So, to sum up, the situation has changed dramatically these
       years. I would say that Russian society is divided into two
       parts: some people,  like me, are all for a certain style which
       exclude some clothing being in a city and of course, when you go
       to an office. Others ( who are majority) are unlikely care about
       it at all.
       I even couldn’t imagine someone wearing shorts and tongues
       on public a few years ago in St Pete but it’s “a
       norm” nowadays. My husband and me sometimes are so upset
       by people’s style  but sometimes we have fun to look at
       people’s style even in Mariinsky theatre.
  HTML https://www.mariinsky.ru/en/about/history/mariinsky_theatre
       As I wrote at my discussion about swimming suits, when I was a
       teenager, my mum taught me to be dressed appropriate even when
       the weather was hot. I’ve also changed and become “
       more democratic” which is not bad I think but in general,
       I hate a tendency to lose any understanding about appropriate
       clothing, being undressed and etc.
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       Re: What is considered underdressed in your country?
       By: Allie Date: May 3, 2018, 1:43 pm
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       Thanks for your answer, Natalia!
       You always share interesting information.
       I don't think the style of clothing demonstrates social status
       where I am from. I mean, if you're richer, you can afford
       certain brands that poorer people can't, but the clothes
       themselves are more or less the same.
       In winter people will wear hoodies. If you have more money, a
       high-end hoodie; if you have less money, a department store's
       one.
       With Instagram especially, I have the impression more and more
       people tend to dress the same way, irrespective of social
       status.
       I was curious about Russia.
       I have a friend from Siberia and she told me that her mother
       always nagged her about her clothes.
       Her mother would leave the house wearing skirts/dresses and
       heels in that freezing winter, and she thought her daughter
       should the same.
       I can't even imagine being able to do so!
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       Re: What is considered underdressed in your country?
       By: Alharacas Date: May 8, 2018, 1:52 am
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       In Germany, anything but sweatpants is fine, I'd say.
       I used to find it fascinating how barkers and waiters abroad
       were able to immediately recognize the nationality of almost any
       passerby. Then I moved to Spain, and within a short time, I was
       able to pick out the Germans (and often also the British) in any
       given crowd. That was about the same time I  discovered why
       we're generally considered the worst-dressed people.
       Whenever I returned to Germany for a visit, dressed in the
       clothes my Spanish boyfriend had - very gently - pushed me to
       buy, my mother would invariable wrinkle her nose, saying "This
       looks very... Spanish, dear".
       Not long ago I told this story to Olga, a woman who's from
       Siberia, has been living in Germany for years, but regularly
       returns to Russia to visit her family. Olga burst out laughing
       and said "You know what my mother does first, after I've arrived
       at her place? She hides my entire suitcase! And when I ask about
       it, she says 'You can wear those clothes again when you're back
       in Germany. You can't wear them here!'"
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       Re: What is considered underdressed in your country?
       By: nataliestpete Date: May 29, 2018, 5:50 pm
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       [quote author=Aliph link=topic=42.msg1369#msg1369
       date=1527321100]
       Where I live there is a very racist joke. “How do you know who
       the groom is at a XXX wedding?” The answer is “ He wears the
       smartest sweatpants and sweatshirt”.
       The joke refers usually to migrants.
       [/quote]
       Brrr...😳 and  it’s true in Russia as well. I don’t often
       use our public transport but it’s enough to understand the joke
       you mentioned, Aliph.
       Moreover, most taxi drivers are also migrants.
       One day, I feel sorry about their poor lives; another day, I can
       be furious because of their behavior.
       It’s off topic, sorry, but I’d like to share. Many migrants who
       work as taxi drivers, can’t  pronounce name of streets
       correctly. So, they ask passengers to do this for them ( when
       they use GPS I mean).  I had a Russian sign on my italki
       account: “
       Рубленште&
       #1081;на,24”
       which was taken from a funny song
       . There are two letters wrong. So, I offered my help to the
       members who wanted to learn Russian and that was a funny remark.
       
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